Krieg747: Confirmed Scammer (Long Story)

Dear reader, it was unknown to the community that Krieg747 struggled with depression
and ultimately lost that battle to suicide.

Suicide is never an option, as bad as life is, there are other places in the world and ways
to get away from what is making you suicidal.

While this thread is an overall negative one, given the context perhaps it was a result of
his struggles or perhaps not.

Suicide is never an answer, so please, if you contemplate suicide contact any of the
resources below.

RIP Krieg747, games are just material items but life is only once. No respawns, no do-overs.

If you are suicidal, please get help.

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[TD="width: 49%, align: left"] SuicideHotlines.com
List of United States National and State/Local Suicide Hotline telephone numbers for For suicide prevention & emotional crisis. [HR][/HR] American Foundation for Suicide Prevention
The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP) is the leading national not-for-profit organization exclusively dedicated to understanding and preventing suicide through research, education and advocacy, and to reaching out to people with mental disorders and those impacted by suicide. [HR][/HR] CrisisLink.org
24 / 7 / 365 day crisis hotlines: 703-527-4077, 1-800-SUICIDE, 1-800-273-TALK
CrisisLink provides support to those facing life crises, trauma and suicide; and provides information, education and links to community resources to empower people to help themselves. [HR][/HR] The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline’s mission is to provide immediate assistance to individuals in suicidal crisis by connecting them to the nearest available suicide prevention and mental health service provider through a toll-free telephone number: 1-800-273-TALK (8255). It is the only national suicide prevention and intervention telephone resource funded by the United States Federal Government. [HR][/HR] Befrienders International
Befrienders International is a gateway to 1,700 suicide and emotional helplines worldwide and on the Internet.- Offers 24 hour, befriending services to those in emotional distress. They offer telephone, snail mail, and face-to-face befriending. They seem to have someone in every country to help you. Befrienders listen to people who are lonely, despairing or considering suicide. They don't judge them, don't tell them what to do. They listen. [HR][/HR] Samaritans (United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland)
If you're in emotional distress or at risk of suicide, Samaritans are there for you 24 hours a day. With Samaritans, you get the time and the space to find a way through. Visit: Samaritans.org for more details. For support phone: 08457 90 90 90 (UK) 1850 60 90 90 (ROI) or email jo@samaritans.org. The Samaritans (Hong Kong)
Provides confidential emotional support to any person, irrespective of race, creed, age or status, who is despairing or suicidal. The Samaritans operate a 24 hour hotline service in English, "although amongst our volunteers we have speakers of many other languages including Cantonese." [HR][/HR] Kids Help
Kids Help Phone and Bell Line - 1-800-668-6868 English and French, for help across Canada. [/TD]
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[TD="width: 49%, align: left"]National Mental Health Association
The National Mental Health Association (NMHA) is the country's oldest and largest nonprofit organization addressing all aspects of mental health and mental illness. With more than 340 affiliates nationwide, NMHA works to improve the mental health of all Americans, especially the 54 million individuals with mental disorders, through advocacy, education, research and service.[HR][/HR] Suicide Prevention Services
Dedicated to the mission of reducing and eliminating suicide and suicide attempts through education, advocacy, and collaboration. If you need assistance (24 hours a day), call: 630-482-9393 if you live in the Fox Valley of Illinois (Crisis Line of the Fox Valley), 1-800-SUICIDE (1-800-784-2433) if you live elsewhere (National Crisis Help Line) [HR][/HR] Survivors of Suicide
Survivors of Suicide, Inc., is a nonprofit, nonsectarian, self-help support group for those who have lost a relative or friend through suicide. The Survivors of Suicide volunteers are dedicated to providing information and support to assist in the grieving and healing process. Survivors of Suicide holds monthly support group meetings in the San Diego area. Survivors of Suicide also publishes a quarterly newsletter and supports this web site. [HR][/HR] Yellow Ribbon Program for the Prevention of Teen Suicide
The Yellow Ribbon Program is based on the premise that suicide is not about death, but rather about ending pain and that it's OK to ask for help. Yellow Ribbon cards are distributed and carried as a simple, effective tool to use to ask for help when feelings of suicide arise. The card has proven to be a lifeline because it is a reminder to young people that they have permission to ask for help, it helps them talk when they may not have the words and it tells the recipient of the card how to help the suicidal person. [HR][/HR] Youth Violence and Suicide Prevention
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) work on injury prevention and control began in the early 1970s. In 1983, CDC added violence related (intentional) injuries to its list of public health priorities and has since established the Youth Violence and Suicide Prevention Team within the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control to study causes of interpersonal youth violence and suicide. The mission of the Youth Violence and Suicide Prevention Team is to promote implementation of efforts to prevent injuries resulting from assaultive and suicidal behavior through development and dissemination of science-based knowledge, intervention, and prevention strategies, working with public and private organizations. [/TD]
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[TD="align: left"] National Hopeline Network
The Kristin Brooks Hope Center has created a unique website that gives a raw, personal glimpse into depression, and how it affects those around you, and a step-by-step path to help.[HR][/HR] SPAN USA
The Suicide Prevention Action Network (SPAN USA) is a 501(c)(3) organization dedicated to preventing suicide through public education and awareness, community action and federal, state and local grassroots advocacy. [HR][/HR] The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention
The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention is dedicated to advancing our knowledge of suicide and our ability to prevent it. The Foundation's activities include: Supporting research projects that help further the understanding and treatment of depression and the prevention of suicide Providing information and education about depression and suicide Promoting professional education for the recognition and treatment of depressed and suicidal individuals Publicizing the magnitude of the problems of depression and suicide and the need for research, prevention and treatment Supporting programs for suicide survivor treatment, research and education


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[TD="align: left"]American Association of Suicidology
A nonprofit organization dedicated to the understanding and prevention of suicide. This site is designed as a resource for anyone concerned about suicide, including AAS members, suicide researchers, therapists, prevention specialists, survivors of suicide, and people who are themselves in crisis. [HR][/HR] Depression Screening
The depression-screening.org web site is sponsored by the National Mental Health Association (NMHA) as part of NMHA's Campaign for America's Mental Health. The mission of this web site is to educate people about clinical depression, offer a confidential way for people to get screened for symptoms of the illness, and guide people toward appropriate professional help if necessary. [HR][/HR] The Jason Foundation
The Jason Foundation, Inc. is a nationally recognized leader in teen suicide awareness and prevention. They make a wide range of informative, educational materials and programs available, at no charge, to parents, teachers, youth workers and others who are concerned about the alarming statistics that link our country's next generations and suicide.[/TD]
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Where to begin on this one. Well I suppose from the start.

I was approached by Krieg, who was looking for an NR Reader at the time for some "Balders Gate" Prototypes he apparently had bought. He asked if I could find him one for cheap and in return he would give me 4 demo's I was missing from my OPM collection (Later turned out to only be 2). I declined any extra money, as I was making friends with Krieg over the past few months and slowly letting him know more and more about the inner workings of THIA and more importantly betas. He would talk about his past job experience, like working for his grandfathers book publishing company and even his dreams of becoming a beta tester.

Using my connections in the communities I landed an NR Reader at a great price for Krieg. Had he done this himself he would likely be paying double if not triple the amount I would pay. The person I ordered the NR Reader off unfortunately fell Ill and they were unable to send it right away. So time lagged on for a few weeks. It wasn't soon after this period of inactivity that Krieg confided in me that the NR Reader wasn't for Baulders Gate Prototypes but rather a Resident Evil 4 Prototype which he purchased for $500.00. I was a bit skeptical at first, but it hadn't arrived yet apparently as the seller was being a bit lazy. I asked him repeatedly who it was that sold him it, but he would not say. I even offered to give my experience (if any) with the person, as I was a long standing member on the board where he bought it from.

He told me he would email the seller and get some pictures as he apparently SAVED THEM AND COULDNT FIND THEM. So I agreed and the next day he sent me two pictures. They both featured the masked monks from early shots of Resident Evil 4. I was excited, and told him how much of a great find it was. There was no doubt the pictures were of a real build with the masked monks in them. A day or so later I approached him and asked him if he would be willing to sell it to me, or make a deal, since he couldn't play it when it arrived because he had no NR Reader still. After some negotiations we agreed that I would send him ISO's of two prototypes I purchased. It was a big loss for me, as I paid quite a bit more than I revealed to Krieg that day, saying they were both totaling to around $550.

For this, I was to receive his Prototype, rip it, and send him the ISO so he could play it as well. We both agreed that he would not speak of what I had given him, but I was free to do with as I pleased with his version. I was already planning a feature for it when suddenly he changed his end of the deal and said I was not allowed to release it but covering it was ok. Reluctantly I agreed, with the hope that he would change his mind (as with all the prototypes I gain that are not under NDA to not release, I intend to release them when doing so is safe from legal recourse for both me and the seller as well as the original source).

A few days later he told me he emailed the seller asking him for a video and tracking info (as per my suggestion), and after a day or so he let me know the seller responded saying that he threw out the receipt already but he sent me a video that the seller supposedly sent him, it was again of the monks but this time it was real live action. It was genuine for sure, I was certain of it. Part of our deal thatI was reluctant about was, he asked that I sent him my parts first. I was very suspicious of this, but given the screens and how well I thought I knew Krieg I agreed. I told him I would password the files inside a Rar and give him the password upon receiving the prototype from him. This wasn't good enough for him though, He needed to see them working on his Cube.

So I changed the deal where I would send him Disc 1 of one of the prototypes, and he would see it works on his Cube. I did so that day to avoid any delay when the disc arrived at his house. He found it to work, and the next day let me know that by tomorrow it would be at his home. So I sent the rar with the rest of the ISO's inside it to him overnight.

Late afternoon he let me know UPS arrived and Dropped it off, I asked for pictures of it with his name near it and he provided them. I asked for a specific one (his hand giving the finger) and he obliged (Little did I know how well this would suit the deal).



He mailed it out the next day as the ISO's were already in his possession. He sent it via his university DHL drop box/shop, and gave me tracking. While it was on its way to me he thanked me for providing him with them and assured me that no one would know what he has. He kept sending pictures and telling me how great the prototypes I sent him were.

So finally later in the day on Jan 25th, DHL drops the box at my door. I woke up (now fairly late in the day, I was exhausted and half asleep when I heard it). So I rushed to the door, opened the box and with my naked eyes (i wear glasses) confirmed that it was an NR disc. I set it down for when I wake up, and went o sleep a happy camper.

1:00AM, Jan 26th. I woke up, two hours away from work. Plenty of time to sink my teeth into it. So I walk over to my NR Reader, put it in and power the Cube on. Except I'm thrown to the browser instead of booting the game. What the?

I take the disc out, inspect it and see that it has a fake label! Its printed out! I thought to myself that the bastard who sold it to him has sent him a copy and was keeping the original. So I opened my retail cube and booted it.

FAILURE. I'm thrown to the browser here as well. What. The. Fuck.

Realizing he was ripped off I pop on aim, and message Krieg (actual transcript) with the mindset of finding who sold him the disc, and eating their brains:

I'm sorry is his auto response..what?? I try to get his attention again:

Utter dis-belief comes across me. This isn't possible he is my friend, the models I seen...I search for answers:

It then hits me, he totally screwed me. I turn the disc over and nothing is even burned on it. He even failed to send me a proper release of his hacked version. I then look for a note he mentioned, its in the back cover of the CD Case. I open it up and read it (3 pages). Displayed here (some things censored to protect the innocent):







Extremely upset, but searching for as to how he did this, I press on asking him more questions. I evolve mark in the conversation, someone who knows a hell of a lot about hex editing and hacking. After a while we realize he isn't kidding and that he actually did hack it, trying to find more information I ask him if he would like to join Mark and I and work on a feature involving these. He agrees and in his excitement reveals that he is not in fact the master of hacking, but rather he simply copied and pasted the maps from the retail release into the Trial Edition and then loaded the maps, which then used the beta enemy models from the trial as the enemies.

He had been bragging this whole time about hacking something so simple that it was one of the first things that Mark and I tried. We of course failed at that on the first try and assumed that it just wouldn't work, so we left it.

It became apparent that I had made a mistake in asking him to join our group. He was clearly not offering anything when it came to hacking, except common sense that Mark and I overlooked. Realizing that this would be easier if I had a working ISO of what he did, I played the fool and ended the night with his fate being OK (hence his post on bioflames where he said APRIL FOOLS to leaving). He had calculated this for months. Shocked and Hurt, I went to work while mulling over his fate. It was there that I realized the only thing I could do. He couldn't be trusted. If he is that dedicated to this by pretending to be my friend for all this time and having no qualms about stabbing me in the back then he cannot be part of us anymore. Not only this but Mark informed me that he screwed him on a deal earlier (though for something much less rare, a promo copy of a game) in the same manner, giving him a hacked up ISO which had game shark cheats embedded into it when he was told it was a prototype.

So here I sit waiting for him to send me the ISO today, so I can confirm hes just a script kiddie who ruined his reputation for two prototypes (both of which were planned to be released). Once this happens this letter will be posted on Bioflames, THIA, and Assembler as proof of his traitorous act. He will be banned most assuredly and his name will be forever known as that of a criminal, liar and a thief. It is here that I post the relevant details of this person, without giving enough away for someone to harm him, but rather to know not to do business with this person. If you are currently dealing with him, I suggest cutting off all contact if you haven't sent anything to him. For, if he could do this to someone who has known him for this long there is no telling what he will do to people he met, not even the fact that I still have his (or will, as it hasn't arrived yet) NR Reader deterred him from enacting his sinister plan. So if you are counting on the shame, or even personal loss that he would incur if he were to go back on his word during a trade do not, for he has shown that he will use any means.

Robert Krieger aka "Krieg747"

Malabar, FL 32950 (Home?)

As well as others, however these are the most recent. Be suspicious of any people form Florida in this location/area.

He is a member on Assembler -http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/member.php?u=1926

PS> Since that was a long story and reading it made you invest a lot of time, for the curious. I will be refunding his money he paid me for the NR Reader, Im not a slimebag as he is. He can now find an NR Reader for full price, and hes going to need a lot of luck with the reputation he has built for himself.

 

Thank you for sharing your story and giving us a warning about dealing with him.

 

wow. what an asshole. I hope no more people get fucked over by him

 

Some people are seriously warped. h: Jeez.

Not sure about about throwing his I.P. and stuff on here, though.

 

h: What a story. I'm sorry for your loss (and thanks for the warning) but perhaps posting his ip adress and personal info isn't the best idea.

 

I posted that because I know he has traded with people here and has been trying to recently so other people wont get screwed like I did. The IP was an attempt for people to look at their logs and see if they had contact with any of his possible aliases. Not sure why you want to protect someone who willingly commits fraud and then thinks everything will be A-ok if he says Sorry afterwords. I'm sure if you were in my position you wouldnt be as forgiving as you might think.

I'm not trying to get anyone to attack him, which is why I held back on posting his full address. I simply dont want this to happen to another person. But since some people expressed concern in a mature and proper manner I've reconsidered and removed the more indepth info, leaving just the basics. Ill just say be warry of anyone in florida near that zipcode. As far as Im concerned he gave up his right to anonymity the moment he commited fraud.

Assembler himself suggested I post this thread to warn users, as he was an active member here before he found out about this (you'd know this if you read the thread). Hes been banned here as a result.

Edit: Hes confirmed his intentions to rejoin the community under a new alias, so please be aware of any Florida users. If you suspect its him please PM me or Assembler and we can check the IP addresses.

 

The lenghts a person will go for something so trivial.. who ever took criticsm on the internet serious >_< . That Krieg is one fucked up person. With no life, given the amount of time he has put into this.

 

What the fuck? What a dick! Man what is up with all this bullshit soap opera drama shit some people create?? When stuff like this happens you KNOW that person has nothing else to fucking do in there free time! That sucks man! =(

 

wow...that definatly sucked!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Tenorman_Must_Die

 

Damn, Someone has been reading way too much Niccolò Machiavelli. This guy has some serious psychological problems and way too much time on his hands.

 

In your 1st post Dot you keep mentioned that "Mark and I tried. We of course failed".

Who is 'Mark' and was/is he in on the scam ?

 

Oh, sorry. I should have clarified, Mark is a staff member at the site I work at. HE has been helping me on that RE4 Trial Editions article as he knows a lot more about hex editing and such.

He and I tried porting maps over from other versions but our first attempt failed so we thought it was a lost cause and moved on to try other things on the trial editions.

He isnt envolved in the scam, but I envolved him in the conversation with Krieg after he revealed what it was to get his take on what he was saying.

 

Sorry to hear, what a sneeky SOB that guy is.

 

What a waste of time. Why put all that effort into deception is beyond me. Much more constructive things to waste time with....like GoW to name just one(albeit a very good one lol).

Will miss his avatar though hehe!

 

Hmm, yeah, a sad story. It is pathethic that there are so many scammers like this out there.

I love the bit where he brags about his master hacking, and yet he couldn't even do something as simple as burning a disc!!!

Damn, that was hard to read with all the left-right scrolling, though. Any chance of making the pictures links - perhaps thumbnails that link to the full size pic?

 

Damn, sorry to hear this Dot. Seems like you keep getting screwed lately(DTL problem, now this).

Sorry to get OT, but I suggest downloading Opera browser and using the "Fit to width" property. It's really nice

 

That's a scary story, indeed. People already bother too much about what others say about them and that sucks... and when they feel like that even behind anonymity, well, I call it paranoia.

 

LOL. Thats a great story. He got you good, that's for sure. At least he's sorry about it. Just someone who wanted to get revenge and was successful at it.

 

hats off for the patience and dedication to revenge lol