Well, it's a debatable topic -- I don't even think I have the right to make the call, as I've never had cancer, but I do know of a few people that have. The one guy aforementioned was about as close as I got to it. He was unable to work (obviously) and had no insurance. I used to smoke enough to where I could spot him. Eventually, the cancer went into remission. If you want my honest opinion, I think tobacco ruins more lives. Because it's legal? Possibly. It's a horrible habit, and prevented me from being active for a LONG time. It was kiling me, and I knew it. My father and brother quitting was what finally oepned my peepers. In general, I think that the medicine companies are kind of greedy. There are many people that need those drugs that can't afford them, and the way our medical system works, the insurance companies decide how much a patient takes --- THAT, is fooked. One last point that I can't believe nobody said. Marijuana = no hangover!
Tobacco is a bad habit. It got worse in the mid 1930s. During WW2, tobacco companies were able to sign a nice contract with the government to provide cigarettes to the allies as part of the rations. Back then, smoking was seen as pure recreational, not a habit. However, WW2 made the soldiers want "feel" like they are not part of it, the cigarettes took care of that, basically calmed their nerves so that they don't flip out and suicide. They grew a nasty habit. After WW2, the capitalistic ideal of exploitation was dug into the tobacco company's CEOs and they saw that their consumers were getting too old for their product so they vigourously started to have commercials of famous teen actors smoke, people like James Dean. So the companies stuck with that tactic. Now if you legalize a drug, you basically end up with a scenario like this. A drug company sells this once illegal drug and basically becomes a conglomerate drug dealer and ends up owning the government. Marijuana and heroin and cocaine were all legal once in the USA, unitl people started to habituously abuse it and when powerful people saw their loved ones get destroyed by the drug. Marijuana became illegal because a US. Senator found out his daughter smoked pot with some black people. He didn't like that so they basically banned marijuana because black people used it with white women around. It was based on pure racism. The same with opium, but that was with the Chinese instead. Still legalizing it will end destroying many more lives because we'll start seeing companies advertise in the magazines so that everyone can see it.
Not quite, in my experience. I can't count the days of utter sluggishness following an evening of heavy smoking...
I believe most of what you said except for this. I'd love to see a source though. Search for "DuPont hemp illegal" on Google and you're bound to find something.
... I don't think anyone here believes it is 100% safe as nothing in life is but it is no where near as harmful as people would like you to believe.
Re: ... Oh for fucks sake, im not starting this shit again, go back and read the earlier discussions...
You smoke weed, and you drink alcohol :-D It is just a drink. You have it with lunch or dinner. Nothing more. I think people who use it as a "drug" are misusing it. Because even if you only use weed occasionally, it is still being used as a drug, to get high. An occasional drinker does not get drunk, so he is not using it as a drug. Now, I am not sure what to believe about the medical uses for marijuana, but if they ever did prove that it actually does help people with their ailments, then it would be ok to use for medical purposes only.
Guess you haven't seen some of the US commercials Several of the US commericals have claimed that weed makes you think you can fly etc. Weed is not a hallucinogen yet that is what many people would like you to think. If you let it ruin your life then you had it comming in the first place.
re I've heard from a few people (I know, this is how bad shit gets started) that cannabis CAN cause hallucinations, but it's not once happened to me. My brother told me he hallucinated a little after eating a quarter's worth (he was afraid of someone searching his room), but I've never heard of anyone hallucinating after smoking it. You can consume much more marijuana than you can smoke (at least, you can get "more" out of it), so I suppose this makes sense. Alcohol is misused, and always will be misused. Same with any other drug (including marijuana). I never found being high very interesting, it just makes you rather relaxed. I used it because it seemed to take a lot of stress out of my life, and helped me to enjoy life more (while I *wasn't* high). No one here is claiming marijuana/cannabis is 100% safe. I know damn well that it harms your lungs, and anyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot, but it won't harm your lungs as much as cigarettes do. I never had coughing/breathing issues like many of my friends that smoke cigarettes do. I also didn't smell terrible after smoking. In fact, I think cannabis smells great ("KB" or whatever it's called comes to mind). Meh, it's just my two cents, so disregard it if you don't like it .
Re: Guess you haven't seen some of the US commercials No, I'd say they're using it properly. Word up, dawg!
A glass of wine with friends after dinner is a social stimulant. A spliff after a nice curry is the same. The fact that you differentiate says more about your opinions than any chemical or psychological differences between the two. Anyone who spends all day every day stoned has problems. Anyone who gets drunk every night has the same kind of problem. However, one of these occupations is legal and the other is not. I don't understand why the (often violent and disruptive) alcoholic gets legal approval where the stoner doesn't.
Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I saw this in Toy's 'R Us and thought it was apt: Now your kids can also enjoy a bong at bedtime!
Found this on a streets cd Hello, hello. my names terry and I’m a law abider There’s nothing I like more than getting fired up on beer And when the weekends here I to exercise my right to get paralytic and fight Good bloke fairly But I get well leery when geezers look at me funny Bounce ’em round like bunnies I’m likely to cause mischief Good clean grief you must believe and I ain’t no thief. Law abiding and all, all legal. And who cares about my liver when it feels good Wwhat you need is some real manhood. Rasher rasher barney and kasha putting peoples backs up. Public disorder, I’ll give you public disorder. I down eight pints and run all over the place Spit in the face of an officer See if that bothers you cause I never broke a law in my life Someday I’m gonna settle down with a wife Come on lads lets have another fight Eh hello. my names tim and I’m a criminal, In the eyes of society I need to be in jail For the choice of herbs I inhale. This ain’t no wholesale operation Just a few eighths and some playstations my’s vocation I pose a threat to the nation And down the station the police hold no patients Let’s talk space and time I like to get deep sometimes and think about einstein And carl young and old kung fu movies I like to see Pass the hydrator please Yeah I’m floating on thin air. Going to amsterdam in the new year - top gear there Cause I taker pride in my hobby Home made bongs using my engineering degree Dear leaders, please legalise weed for these reasons. Terry) Like I was saying to him. I told him: top with me and you won’t leave. So I smacked him in the head and downed another carling Bada bada bing for the lad’s night. Mad fight, his face’s a sad sight. Vodka and snake bite. Going on like a right geez, he’s a t**t, Shouldn’t have looked at me like that. Anyway I’m an upstanding citizen If a war came along I’d be on the front line with em. Can’t stand crime either them hooligans on ******. Drugs and criminals those thugs on the penny coloured will be the downfall of society I’ve got all the anger pent up inside of me. (Tim) You know I don’t see why I should be the criminal How can something with no recorded fatalities be illegal And how many deaths are there per year from alcohol I just completed gran tourismo on the hardest setting We pose no threat on my settee Ooh the pizza’s here will someone let him in please We didn’t order chicken, not a problem we’ll pick it out I doubt they meant to mess us about After all we’re all adults not louts. As I was saying, we’re friendly peaceful people We’re not the ones out there causing trouble. We just sit in this hazy bubble with our quarters Discussing how beautiful gail porter is. Mtv, bbc 2, channel 4 is on until six in the morning. Then at six in the morning the sun dawns and it’s my bedtime. (Terry) Causing trouble, your stinking rabble Boys saying I’m the lad who’s spoiling it You’re on drugs it really bugs me when people try and tell me I’m a thug Just for getting drunk I like getting drunk Cause I’m an upstanding citizen If a war came along I’d be on the front line with em. (Tim) Now terry you’re repeating yourself But that’s okay drunk people can’t help that. A chemical reaction inside your brain causes you to forget what you’re saying. (Terry) What. I know exactly what I’m saying I’m perfectly sane You stinking student lameo Go get a job and stop robbing us of our taxes. (Tim) Err, well actually according to research Government funding for further education pales in insignificance When compared to how much they spend on repairing Leery drunk people at the weekend In casualty wards all over the land. (Terry) Why you cheeky little swine come here I’m gonna batter you. come here.
