Legit or Not Legit? mmm..

ok, so what if a person buys japanese versions of video games, but some of this games are a little hard to beat if you dont know japanese, and this person downloads american versions and play's them on he's/her's modded console, is this LEGIT? :funkinmu:

 

I'm pretty sure its illegal because technically you are pirating a version of the game you don't own.

 

However, if you were to have a Japanese game, and apply an open-source translation patch to the ROM/ISO and burn a copy/do a cart hack that'd be ok, yes?

 

I was thinking about doing the same thing with Panzer Dragoon Azel, but TDC is right. It's most certainly illegal.

 

I think that is legal...but don't quote me on that :smt023

 

I think translation patches go into the Grey Area of Doom, along with about 80% of the rest of the internet in general...

 

Yep, unofficial 'patches' are definately 'illegal' as they modify the original code.

 

Oh well. Seems it's illegal no matter what you do. Best start learning Japanese :-D Or not worry how illegal it is, and do it anyways :smt045

 

just do it in your own private and don't talk about would be ok...

 

hey guys, let's talk seriously. i'm not a pirate or anything, but if you purshase a game and you modify it with a translation patch, no matter what game compagnies are saying, i personnaly think it is not a crime.

let me explain you why it is my opinion:

first, you buyed the game, so they made profits and you helped them.
Second, if you legally buy something then this same thing now bellongs to you. if you want to moddify your DC case, you do it! it belong to you and you legally buyed it, and this moddification won't help you to do illegal things in the future, nor the patch as well. It's a crime without victims nor injustice. You paid the game, they received the cash, you do some publicity for their games, you friends buy it if they like it, you don't copy the game for your friends or for resale at all, you have fun and everyone's happy.

note that i understand the existance of territories and all (NOJ, NOA,...) , and i understand why they don't whant you to buy games from different territories, and i acept that. But if you buy a used game from ebay that is japanese and you patch it to be english, it doesn't change the fact that this game was already sold, and that it isn't illegal to buy pre-played games. If you don't buy this japanese one, you'll maybe find this english one, but who cares, like i said a sentence earlier, it already have been sold, and the compagny won't have more cash anyway.

to play your ntsc-jap game, you certainly own the japanese ver. console to read it anyway, right?
:smt043

if you do it for this game anyway without saying it to anyone, it will be a crime without any looser nor injustice for the other consumers imo, because the game was already buyed anyway, not mather the language. the game was simply backup-ed, and enhanced for you by-the-way. * :smt083

 

it's not illegal to change code of a program you own if it's for your own use and not distributed....no different than adding text to a book...it's legal as long as its not recirculated and can only be kept in house...

 

that sounds dandy and all but to the eyes of law/rules it's still illegal.
simple as that...

what you think and do in your owbn private is different matter though...
they aren't gonna hunt down a user doing that...

there was rather long thread on gamefaqs forum last month...
and I don't feel like to this one became another lo~~~~ng thread arguing from two sides...

cheers

 

exactly, if you legally paid for the program (and not downloading it to burn it) and you don't distibute it has ''changed'',''altered'' ,''copied'' (and/or whatever else) i personally think you can still go to heaven and have a peacefull mind if you modify it for your personal use. ;-)

and to answer your question wich really was ''downloads american versions and play's them on he's/her's modded console, is this LEGIT?'' the answer is no, it's a downloaded version of a game, not a member of assembler's forum. :smt033

ok, this wasn't really good. :smt082

 

I very much doubt the developer nor law would agree with that.
still doing in private and not distributing who's going to know anyway...

 

exact, a crime without looser nor injustice for the other cusomers because you actaully buyed the game, and it is now yours. The compangy received what they whanted, and you don't do anything to stop/slow down their objectives.

 

i don't think the publisher see it that way.
they may think what we are buying is CD/DVD disc itself and the privilege to play their code on the console... or something like that... (
afatc the code/game itself is theirs and we are onlyallowed to play...)

probably not as bad as those agreement you get with computer softwares though...

cheers

 

YOU CAN change code on your OWNED program....just like a music cd you can copy , for personal use, any headings ahead of songs, specialized counters, and even graphics to accompany the music for cdg....

 

Technically illegal. Immoral? Make your own decision. I don't see a problem with it.

 

If it was Illegal to make translation patches, Im sure Dejap would be dead by now. Well technically they are :-D but at least the site and the forums arent down. :smt023
What would be achieved If a company did destroy such sites???
One pissed off Mr. Casual--Thats what! :-D :smt043 :smt042 :smt082 :smt045

 

i think by not providing the original ROM no one bother the site.
if they provide the pre-patched ROM from their site you can bet those publisher will close it down before you know it...