Lets make changes in the Game industry. We can do it if we stick together.

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by RegalSin2020, May 30, 2006.

  1. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Agree, if they gave the girl a 34DD rack coupled with some Havok boob physics and slutty clothing then it would sell like bagels:dance:

    Blood would help too
     
  2. RegalSin2020

    RegalSin2020 Guest

    It is not a opinion it is a truth. Most people knew how great the game was but the game was released along the lines of Vexx, Dinosaur Planet, and Spinx and the Cursed Mummy.

    The game had a spectacular story, excending gameplay, music in all the right areas, did not make on racial jokes or slurs, did not use stupidy in the wrong way.
    Also looking back I could play this game like twenty or thirty times before I get bored.

    Yes it was short but the overall was a grand exprience. It might have not been perfect but cokpared to other games this game stands out above most others.

    TheDeathcoaster if you went up to any company and said if I can get enough people to make a profit will you release this game in stores for this console. I am sure enough that enough people will prepay just to buy this game. I will make it so that enough people will pre-order and will be awaiting a game for that console.

    Trust me it will work but you have to have faith. In the end if it fails then everybody will go there seperate ways and get there money back. If it's profits they want we will give it to them.

    Alchy to hell with Wikipedia. Wikipedia has so many false ends and ties. There base most of there knowledge of recent events and not prior. Is Wikipedia you when you get uo in the morning or you when your at lunch or you saying where is the meat in all of this. You have to wake up and realise the more people that stans up for there rights the more they will listen.

    KaL_YoshiKa I know alot of how hwat and what works and what and what is. First ordinary people like us get together and write programs called games, we make enough money we can soon open our own company, after awhile we start to hire people to help us work on our video games and take credit for there work, later we use there ideas as our own and keep reusing regaurdless if there is loss in originalism. Then again until they have enough exprience they can work as a producer and finally start using our money which is now theres to fund other peoples project. Also no nobdoy really care about how she looked and Jade is a great charcter.

    Look it all starts from insides somebody room, on a piece of paper, and even in there heads, They will listen if we give them reason to listen. Heck yeah being the big time famous or wealthy person I can just waltz in somebody place and demand this will be made. Then again hey what do you want to be another stiff or the person making wonderful things happen.

    Alchy and anybody else BG&E was a great game that had small flaws. It was a adventure game simlular Mystical Ninja, Jetforce Gemini, Conker, or Banjo. The game had a sleek look on all systems but really stood out on the GCN and X-BOX.
    Story immensive and sad, and various things to keep yourself occupied.

    Look if we all annoy the living daylights out of Ubi and said if we can get eough people to buy this game directly from you for the GCN and later the X-BOX and so on they will surely release the game.
     
  3. Paulo

    Paulo PoeticHalo

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    If your not taking the piss i feel well sorry for you... :banghead:

    There is no way this is going to happen. Even if you had 10,000 sigs with money down its unlikely to happen!
     
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  4. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    You need to stop posting when you're drunk/high, because that makes no sense at all.

    My point was that wikipedia have sales figures, which (had you taken the time to go look) were sourced to financial data. I posted that because you claimed that the Gamecube had sold over 1 billion units, which is obviously incorrect, and that it had sold more than Xbox and PS2 combined, which is also incorrect. Where did people standing up for their rights come into it?

    Not unless they think it will make money, which they know they won't. Again you're letting your imagination run wild - there isn't a viable market for this with the new consoles just on the horizon and there are far more profitable things for Ubisoft to be worrying about. The original BG&E took 4 years to develop, by 2010 you think anyone will be interested in a Gamecube game? They aren't going to bother starting development now on a sequel to a game that bombed the first time, on hardware that is well past its prime. Everyone in this thread has said this to you, so please listen this time.

    There's absolutely no way I'm giving you money to make a sales pitch to Ubisoft for another BG&E game on the Gamecube. I'm willing to bet that not a single person here will either, it's lunacy. If I was a bit more suspicious I'd say you were trying to scam people out of money. If that's the case you need to find a new scam, because this one won't make you a damn thing.
     
  5. RegalSin2020

    RegalSin2020 Guest

    I am sorry I am having a bad day with Ebay and my tele that can use a light gun is broken due to the power cable being draged so now I am going to have to soilder to the two metal pieces together.


    We all know games do not take four years to develop. They are lying out of there behinds and by that I mean to say they had to create the game then generate it to each console and make edits to the game so that each version was some what appealing. For a long time I have been seeing screens of the GCN game and the PS2 games later. In fact thats the only reason why the game failed since it was on threee console and everybody just say buy the X-Box version guessing it will have better graphics. Also the game was released with some other mid level games like Vexx, Dinosaur Planet, and Spinx and the Cursed Mummy.

    Also the guy who you poijnted out that reviewed the worst version and that was the extra jaggys and calling it Zelda( WTF ) out of all games. He obviously never really played the game fully. This guy is a asshole bitching on the games events and storyline then refering to puzzles( which is the last thing any games needs )
    Look people in our world is still playing Saturn and Dreamcast along with PSX so why not GCN which had yet to be crunched.


    The game is not Bomb Barded it is how every other adventure game should be. Long yet short, simple but complex, Huge world with almost endless terrain, and just like a piece of film keeps you coming back for more.

    This is how we are going to get them. We are going to write a purposal saying that if we can get enough people to preorder Beyond Good & Evil Part Two for GCN that willl genearate a fair profit. Will you please release the game for us.
    IT would be something like that and people from all over would pre-order the game online for GCN and then every other console and when the numbers reach high enough they will release the game and we will be the first ones to taste victory.

    It can be done and miracles do happen. Also I have no hatred against the the UK but screw the bald English speaking pig who said Final Fantasy is a franchines.
    Look the way it would be done is that UBisoft creates a Pre-order BG&E fund for GCN and people who are willing to pre-order will do so.
     
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  6. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    Sorry to break it to you bro, but the only way you'll ever see this game so late in the console's life cycle is that if suddenly BG&E started selling like mad, which is not going to happen. So if you want the sequel go out and convince a million people to go buy up every copy of it they can get thier hands on, that will create the demand for a sequel.

    Seems like a game only needs to be a moderate sucess to warrant a sequel most of the time. I suggest you go get a small business loan (say for a few hundred thousand dollars) and make it your personal crusade to single handedly up the sales of this game. You'll get your sequel, you'll just have to work off the debt for the rest of your life. Yeah it'll suck, but how bad do you want that game to come out?
     
  7. Blur2040

    Blur2040 Game Genie

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    RegalSin.

    You have no chance of convincing any one of us that you're right. We've already told you why, but here's a (un?)brief Synopsis:

    Cube is for all intents and purposes dead. Ubisoft has X360, Wii, and PS3 devkits by now. To start a sequel right now for Cube would be moronic, as it would take a few years to do. They're not putting out a Colecovision game here. It really does take that long. By the time they got it out, we'd be well into the next gen.

    It won't make money. Hmm...let us figure out why...

    Bigass development team cost dollars. Look at the credits of any modern video game. There's a shitload of people there, right? Well, they're not working for minimum wage...and they're working for a few years. That equals millions of dollars.

    At fifty bucks a pop, thats 20,000 copies you need to sell to make a million dollars...(in a fantasy world where the developer gets all of the $50)...and something tells me that wouldn't even come close to covering the costs of developing a game from scratch. Even if you were recycling the engine and art, that's not gonna cover it. And I'm sure you'd consider it a crime against humanity to not do a sequel from scratch.

    Hmm...I'm getting bored...Beyond Good and Evil, though a good game, doesn't appeal to everyone...so...no sequel...Very few people would be willing to preorder a game that isn't even under development...well...you probably skimmed over everybody else's posts...so you get the idea.

    As a final note, I find it amusing that you think your opinion on video games is the end-all, correct one. Starcraft Ghost must be changed because you don't like the way its going? There must be a Beyond Good and Evil Sequel? Teehee.

    I've decided that a Beyond Good and Evil sequel should be done as a Japanese style dating sim, and that Starcraft ghost should be turned into an arcade racing game. I need you guys to ge me the proper Emails. Get on it.

    I can only assume that this thread is some sort of odd joke. I really hope it is. Either way, please stop. It's really annoying.

    Ah, as an added bonus, could you tell us how old you are, where you're from, and how you found ASSEMbler? The first two are just a curiosity thing for me, and the third is so we can plug the hole.
     
  8. KaL_YoshiKa

    KaL_YoshiKa Commandent Lurker

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    Your cheque and my signture for the petition is in the mail, lets get those games happening :icon_bigg.
     
  9. RegalSin2020

    RegalSin2020 Guest

    Creating a game can take less then four months without music and voice actors.


    Your comments is based on recent news and words coming out of PR Managers mouths. It's not about the sales alone, Great games might be forgotten if your not the producer or your not the president.

    Look the game is great all around and for people just to waltz around getting the idea that hey Videogames can only be made like a movie is forgetten there is many great games that has been created in less then a week. Yes 3d will take some time just to get things perfect.

    OKay Okay lets focus on my other big change, Starcraft: Ghost. I believe the title should be changed to Ghostcraft kinda like Warcraft but refering to the spy elements. If enough people was to Mail Bilzzard or whoever is in charge of the naming.

    Lastly I believe and know Ape did complete Mother 3 for the N64. What I would like to see is Mother 3 on the GBA. It would be called "Mother 3 Special" and be focused on the fan base and pre ordered and made in small numbers.

    Well lets just say that I am two years of age and found assembler while searching the term dev kit.
     
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  10. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    You have no idea what goes into the making of a game. For your own sake, stop this embarassment. Nobody is interested in helping you run your wild goose chase. I'm sorry I have to be this abrupt, but it's like you're not reading any of our posts.
     
  11. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    :rolleyes: :fresh:

    BS overload, I'm leaving the thread...
     
  12. Alien Workshop

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    If they made a sequel to Beyond Good & Evil, would it be called The Gay Science :lol:

    BTW, I found a picture of RegalSin2020:

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  13. SuperGrafx

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    I'd rather see Shenmue III made than a sequel to BG&E.
    And given that Shenmue III is nowhere further along now than it was 3 years ago despite constant petitions and whatnot, I'd say a BG&E sequel has no chance in hell either. Especially as a GC release.
     
  14. Carnivol

    Carnivol Dauntless Member

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    Not ALL games takes that long, but some games ends up taking much much more time than that.


    Sometimes, even the final testing phase to get rid of any evt. bugs and such in a game's development can end up taking those four months.


    Created in LESS than a week!?
    You speaking of simple games made with pre-made scripting languages for easy drag'n drop made games?
    And what GREAT games have been made in such short time as LESS than a week?


    Not gonna happen, game might be nicknamed "Ghostcraft" amongst fans, IF they like the name (have to admit, it's not a bad nick/pet name at all) but Blizzard would most certainly not create a new franchise name in the ____Craft series for a spin-off game to a game that more or less already is a spin-off, and especially not for a title that's been around in news highlight for like 5-6 years now with the title "StarCraft: Ghost"


    No!
    No...
    and *drumrolls*

    NO!

    And oh, as for the pre-order funding idea of yours; if you want a sample of how amazingly well THAT would (NOT) work -> take a look at the Sonic Xtreme topics, where just a question along the lines of "would you (i.e. the community) like to split the tab (of a sum a small group of people could easily match) for a release of this game (sonic xtreme) ?", just see how well that went.!


    You obviously have no grip of how anything in this world works at all, do you?
     
  15. RegalSin2020

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    I bet that if at least 1,000 people was to e-mail the creators I am sure they will make the change.

    First off I do know a lot of stuff and yes I am lacking in reading material for the programing part but again if the users all gang up together we can pull our games any way we want them too.

    Also I bet your just one the many who would do that against me just to make me look bad. Look Mother 3 in 3d on the gba is possible. We need a 3d Chip in the cart and people would pay to have this game on the first couple of days.

    Would you pay an extra $100 just to play Earthbound 3 in 3d on a GBA or would you rather be a follower and get the NDS which is easily dumped or plahy it on a Wii.

    Trust me we can do it and I bet. I just need somebody to help me write the Speech and convine them to do it.
     
  16. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    Hey Regalsin, your devotion to this game moved me. It truely moved me in ways I haven't felt since this morning in the shower. I was so taken by your resolve to change the gaming industry I flew to France and broke into Ubisoft's headquarters to get some pics of the unfinished prototype of Beyond Good and Evil 2. I thought you might like to see them.

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    First thing you'll notice is that they decided to title this game: "Beyond Good and Evil 2: The Shitcanning." It might have something to do with the large can of shit I had to dig through to find it, I don't know. So anyway, I had to wait a few minutes until the guards fell asleep, then I busted out my handy cardboard box and snuck into the testing room to fire this baby up.

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    Here is our intrepid reporter with her trusty camera. As you can see the graphics kick major loads of ass. One wonders how such detail could be accomplished on the ol' Cube. Looks like they changed her character model somewhat. From what I could gather from the cinemas your character lost her job and had taken up manually masturbating caged animals for artificial insemination for a living, or something. I had to hide under the box at that point becasue some smelly french people were comming.

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    For some reason they changed your main weapon from a staff to an oversized chicken leg with a bite out of it. Maybe for artistic reasons? Who knows, I could never understand the French and thier "art." All they do is look down at you through thier monacle in a condescending way, play with that mustache a little as they order another fliet minoin. Fucking French. Also all the bad guys have been changed to look like Tom Crusie. They must really like Mission Impossible over there.

    Also you can tell this game is unfinished becasue after this scene her tits disappeared and never came back. That's what we call in the industry an "A-high" bug.

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    Once I kicked Tom Crusie's ass the game cut to a scene of the main character shooting up smack on the White House lawn. Damn man, I mean I know games have grown up and stuff, but if you're gonna have a character do drugs you'd think they'd like hide it or something. I mean you can't just shoot up dope on the white house lawn, you'd have secret service dudes stomping your guts out in five seconds flat. But no secret service dudes came. Totally unrealistic.

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    When I died the game cut to this scene. I think I was enjoying this death animation a little too much, maybe making too much noise under the cardboard box becasue French security caught me right after I took this picture. I had to sneak my cellphone up my ass to get these pics out, so you better be thankful.

    So anyway, I can see why you want to play it so much. Count me in, I'll sign any stupid ass petition you want, I want this game dammit! I don't care who I have to kill to get it. NOW WHO'S WITH ME!
     
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  17. RegalSin2020

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    Look I am being serious here. I know somebody here really wants this to be done for the Cube and then 360 and the PS3 later on with a combo. but all I would like is the last two games to be released. Is that a lot to be asked.
     
  18. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    LOL:clap::nod:

    And regalsin, dude I think your whole idea loosed any conection with reality the moment you said a game could be made in four months or less than a week:rolleyes:
     
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  19. KaL_YoshiKa

    KaL_YoshiKa Commandent Lurker

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    Rofl at Hawanja, that's brillant, it actually makes this topic worth it's poor festering existance.

    3d Chip for the GBA...wtf? That barely even warrents comment, Nintendo have discontinued the system for f's sake. Also the GBA is way easier to emulate then the NDS.

    And finally, 1000 people emailing Blizzard and they'd barely even notice, predominately since they have several million fans (or so I'd guess I don't have an exact numbers) but also because they've kind of cancelled Ghost at least to the current extent that it was.

    I'm out of this topic too now, it's just too painful.
     
  20. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    Look I'm being serious too dammit! Do you have any idea how large my cellphone is? It's like this big:

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    I cannot tell you how much that hurt, having that hunk of metal up in my anal cavity, so YOU could look at some damn pictures. Now you're telling me you think I just made it up? Well I say "Good Day" to you sir!
     
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