Lets Talk Neo Geo Prototypes.

Discussion in 'Neo Geo Discussion' started by TonK, Jun 1, 2009.

  1. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    And you're still plain wrong. A proto cartridge will still be worth something, but it will be worth less than if the ROM was not publicly available.

    There's no argument here.
     
  2. Bramsworth

    Bramsworth Well Known Member

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    I find it funny the owner of the only known proto of this now dumped game would care so much. After all, these guys only store these things in a closet and have no intention of ever sharing or even looking at the thing, who cares if others have it suddenly. If the monetary value meant anything to them they would have sold it long ago.

    Drama queens lol
     
  3. alphagamer

    alphagamer What is this? *BRRZZ*.. Ouch!

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    That is all hoarders care about, if they wouldn't care, they would share the data in the first place.
    They sit in their homes, holding their protos, Gollum style "my preciousss".
     
  4. Bramsworth

    Bramsworth Well Known Member

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    By all means lets see more protos be released then. It's fun to watch.
     
  5. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Literally and figuratively
     
  6. NewDump

    NewDump Spirited Member

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    Hello, Supergun on the release of Final Romance 2 title I'll do this with a friend from another forum (NewDump & Kanyero) to port it to CD NeoGeo MVS / AES using a hex editor. the reason for that do not end romance 2 and crosses sword2 is simple, when working on the conversion of CS2 are graphics problems that we could not solve. The final romance 2 as we release was a ruling which could not get credit lines to score a single game play. and one week of being released in the anonymous form of work to fix that bug.

    Although prototype could not be considered real if we can say that is a conversion of a possible prototype, such information was also published in these groups and forums at the date as the information posted on its day of CS2



    http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6210
     
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  7. rod_wod

    rod_wod Fiery Member

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    Was neo pool ever made it sounds like it would of been a cool game for the neogeo i like to think their is a proto somewhere.
     
  8. Serantes

    Serantes Peppy Member

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    Well, i know this is not the right thread, but i saw the dreamcast stuff here, so i am going to bug :p
    I got a beta of Outrun 2 Chihiro Arcade, and more betas of sega gd based games may be there, game plays as shit compared with final rls, pretty bad controll and framerate, its also missing some music tracks, those are there but with an X over it on the music selection menu.
    Game has also multilang selector on test mode, i tried spanish language but unfortunally it still plays in english, final release dosent has the language menu on the test mode
     
  9. cyberguile

    cyberguile Dauntless Member

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    epic topic.
    first Pitt and now, the ressurection of Dion Dakis himself :p

    Anyone saved Xacrow's website ? Seemed it disappeared with geocities closing their hosting service.
    And btw, same question goes to Mr Dakis: your AOL hosted website disappeared. Do you have any save of it ? (and do you know if any new items will appear for sell on http://www.ngfusa.com/ ?)
     
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  10. Dion

    Dion Robust Member

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    I just found out about this place yesterday and I joined today.

    My aol site is gone because, who in the world still uses aol?? But I do have it all saved on an old cd. Maybe I should upload it to neogeofreak.com for nostalgia and kicks. I don't even remember what was on that site. That was back in 1996-1998/99.

    As for your question on items for sale:
    We've been selling quite a bit of cartridges and collectibles lately, but it hasn't been like that since I left the scene back in 2005 or so.

    For a long time I didn't sell much, nor did I get many inquiries. It seemed like the neo market had collapsed like the rest of the world-wide economy. But all of a sudden, about November of 2010, I had 5 people email me and purchasing games and collectibles. Of the 5 people, 3 of them are collectors from overseas (two of them are known collectors).

    Mostly I get contacted by private collectors looking for a rare cartridge or some type of neogeo collectible. Usually it's the more serious collector looking for some really rare or specific item of interest.
     
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  11. NewDump

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    Are the creator or webmaster ngfusa?.
     
  12. cyberguile

    cyberguile Dauntless Member

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    actually, I was looking for the mahjong controller page you had on your aol site :)
    Got another question, on some pictures on the ngfreak site, you have a box with 5 copies of pal kizuna encounter. ( http://www.neogeofreak.com/stock2/6Kizunas.jpg )
    How many copies passed in your hands during the years ?
    I've been in contact years ago with Daine, the australian collector who sold one copy on ebay for more than 10k$ (can't remember the exact price) and he told me by the time that he knew of at least two fellow australian collector that bought their copy (like him) in australia. When I asked him why he did sell his, he made me understand that maybe he had another one but never confirmed.
    With the three copies discovered by Adol and the 5 on the picture, that makes 11~12 but I'm sure there's more out there. It's very difficult to keep track of them though as the neo-geo collecting scene is so "special".

    As for the topic, I just remembered about this 2001 picture from shawn's collection on neo-geo.com:

    [​IMG]

    Can someone explain me what are those ?
     
  13. NewDump

    NewDump Spirited Member

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    hi

    It would also be helpful to know if you still have Neo Pool since about 2004, talk to you by Email and I confirm that I had it.

    [​IMG]

    I remember years ago you buy 2 prototypes and SNK Takara
     
  14. Dion

    Dion Robust Member

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    Yes, it is me.
    Websites at www.NeoGeoFreak.com and www.NGFUSA.com
    It has been a long time with no updates to the sites. Maybe soon I will add new photos and add new pages.

    Ahh... I remember that.
    I will add new pages to NeoGeoFreak and I will do mahjong page in your memory. ;-)



    When we received our second huge rebirth stock shipment, http://neogeofreak.com/stock2/stock2.htm the 5 English Kizuna cartridges, both Chris and myself already owned one copy each, and we had already sold three previously (one was an english cartridge, english insert, with a japanese manual). So 5+5=10. So it is a minimum of 10 sold by NGF. Probably 100-500 English Kizuna exists.

    At a minimum,at least 100+ copies of the English Kizuna Encounter cartridges exist. There is no way SNK would have made any less. I will never understand how some people take the words of that other neo site on numbers count.

    English Kizuna is rare and never for sale, but the same for the some other english titles. Double Dragon, Real Bout Special, Metal Slug, Ultimate 11, Mark of the Wolves, Neo Turfmaster, KoF2000. It is the same rarity, and never sold. Can you think of the last time you saw the English KoF2000 for sale? Have you ever seen English KoF2000 in person? I think the English KoF2000 is THE RAREST aes cartridge cause I KNOW and CONFIRM ONLY 100 EXIST. The last one sold for $5000.00 (soon much higher).


    I normally don't speak of personal sales, but most people already know these details.
    That is a photo of the NGF official conversions we sold to shawn.
    We did many deals with him over the years and it was me who pretty much got him going. I even sold him his first english Metal Slug. After he got started he wanted the unreleased aes games, so Chris and myself sold him every mvs conversion in his collection.
    We also provided him with most of his AES and CD stock for his online sales.
     
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  15. _SD_

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    Bang Bang Busters is about to see the light of day. A group called Neo Conception International has secured the rights from Visco to release a highly limited initial run of 100 AES carts.

    http://www.bang2busters.com/

    Interestingly, this is to be the first of four planned releases from NCI.

    Oh and Dion, I've seen the pictures of your Pocket Dev Kit, I don't suppose you'd be in possession of any unreleased NGPC games or have any information?
     
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  16. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    Surely the question should be, are you the person who got a permenant injunction slapped across them by SNK Playmore...
     
  17. Dion

    Dion Robust Member

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    It will be interesting.
    Are you sure it's licensed through visco? Very interesting if it is and I would love to see more games.

    We did something similar with a previously unreleased game, Zupapa, in 2001. http://www.ngfusa.com/zupapa/zupapa.htm

    We showed our contracts and paperwork, plus we showed all the arts, negatives, positives, MOs, and files we were provided with.

    I'm always happy when more games are released for the neogeo.
    I wish neo conception all the best luck and I hope to see more games.

    Yes and no.
    Playmore took us to court for "allegedly" selling infringing items. Key word, ALLEGEDLY. They didn'ty know that we made an agreement with Aruze/SNK-Japan.

    Playmore took us to court and we reached a settlement. It was a very lucrative settlement for NeoGeoFreak/NGF-USA.

    The settlement states that we can not sell any infringing items (but that applies to everyone, including you). Since we never sold any infringing items, we were never worried.

    As part of tour settlement agreement, Playmore had to issue a press to clear our name NeoGeoFreak/NGF-USA. Playmore issued a press release in magazines and on their web site stating that all the games that NeoGeoFreak/NGF-USA were offering for sale were 100% official and authorized by SNK-Japan for sale and repackaging by NeoGeoFreak/NGF-USA.

    The court papers are available for anyone to see/read.
     
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  18. cyberguile

    cyberguile Dauntless Member

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    Thanks for the answers.
    To be honest, I've never really been into neo-geo collecting but had some interest for the historical part of it coz it's full of incredible stories :) Big money, international stories and all the stuff.
    I've always thought that producing less than a thousand copies of a videogame was nonsense economically talking so be sure I know there's probably still a handful copies of kizuna out there :) Fun part being trying to track them (like I mostly do with sega rarities).
    As far as I'm concerned, my lurking around the internet made me find more copies of kizuna than any of the other english games you talk about (I'm not sure I've personnaly seen more than one copy of Ultimate 11...)

    Kof2000 was the game you bought the whole stock ? That's right ?
     
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    Have you noticed the difference Proto Bang2Buster menu and you will sell?.

    In one dated 2000, C, and another 1994 C
     
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