Little girl bitchs, Jobs apologizes

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  1. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    That why I said that girl is on the right road to become a bitch, and the best her parents could do is to teach her about how the real world works, and not encourage her to become an actual bitch.
     
  2. mairsil

    mairsil Officer at Arms

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    Maybe not now, but she will be a bitch. Children whose parents let them grow up in a fantasy land like that usually turn out to be snotty bitches who think the world revolves around them (i.e. Paris Hilton).

    Parents need to get their heads out of their asses:

    • Your child (most likely) doesn't have ADD. Children aren't meant to sit still for an 8 hour time frame and listen to a teacher discuss boring topics.
    • Beating your child doesn't make them stop doing something bad because they know better. It makes them stop because they don't want to be beaten. Effectively, you are treating them exactly like a dog. Try explaining something once in a while.
    • Self-esteem is a myth. Yes, people should feel good about themselves, but sometimes they need to feel bad about themselves in order to make a change. Just because your kid has a bad day at school doesn't mean that they need Prozac and consoling.
    • Your kid can NOT be whatever they want when they grow up. Is it so hard to tell the kid the truth? They can be a lot of things when they grow up, yes, but they should know that some things may be out of reach.
    • If your child has an idea they want to send to a non-kid oriented company, LOOK AT THE DAMN SUBMISSION POLICIES FIRST. It will save you a hell of a lot of time and will stop wasting ours when your child bitches because she got a form letter that you knew damn well was coming.
     
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  3. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    Ah, the anonymity of the internet. Not one of you would have the nutsack to say a word in protest to the parents, much less the little girl, if you ever met them.

    That aside, it's really quite disturbing how some of you are prepared to label an 8-year-old girl a "bitch", when you know nothing about her, or her parents. Does insulting a child over the net really make you feel like you're putting the world to rights?
     
  4. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    Alchy, those are points I have brought up in the face of some of my relatives regarding their kids. Are we men or are we mice? There's nothing to be afraid of when saying that people must face facts as soon as possible or else they ll end up feeling all sorts of bad let-down emotions later on in life.

    Education is not only science and literature, it's the art of survival, and for that one has to come to terms with the hardships and truths of life. Being a kid isn't an excuse for being ignorant, annoying, noisy or whiny. Kids adapt to their environment and the ones that do adapt sooner are the ones that become more successful later in their life because they know life is not a game and no one will hold their hand all the way through life.

    EDIT: Bitching is an expression, and I personally wouldn't say that a girl is a "bitch", but if she whines about unrealistic things..then it is bitching as a verb. I don't think anyone here means that the girl is a "bitch" as in the prostitutal meaning nevertheless.
     
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  5. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    I'm all for educating kids in a sensible manner. I'm mostly just surprised that people here would get worked up to the point they're prepared to call an infant a bitch because she cried at a letter.

    Also, I think that being a kid is a pretty good excuse for being the things that you mention. Surely all children are ignorant, annoying, noisy and whiny at some stage in their life? Demonising them for being so isn't the answer: teaching them the correct response (and explaining why) is.
     
  6. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    I wa going to answer that but barc0de did a good job.

    About your 2nd post alchy, I cant say beating up a kid is the solution, cuz my parents never did that. I'm not for the spanking theraphy, but I cant deny you cant talk to some people, and that includes kids.
     
  7. mairsil

    mairsil Officer at Arms

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    My problem isn't with the kid, it's with the parents. Kids will be kids, but it is the parents' responsibility to shape and mold the child into an adult by handing down values. The response of the parents in this situation is idiotic. Instead of simply trying to explain why corporations don't take outside ideas, they publicly attack a company that was following a standard practice.

    My wife and I were watching some childrens programming (to make fun of it, there was nothing else to watch), and the recurring theme in almost every show that we watched was "if you whine and moan enough about something, you will get it." Not working for it, not even asking for it, but whining and begging for it. It is sickening that children are being raised in such a "we deserve everything" state of mind because their parents never tell them no, never discipline for bad behavior and constantly show the kid that they will always get their way.

    I have worked with numerous out of high school/college kids who have never been told that they did something wrong, until they started working. And you know what, most of them cannot handle being told that they screwed up, even if it is insignificant and nonconsequential. Being told that they did something wrong after going through their entire lives never making a mistake (according to their parents and their teachers who have to placate the parents) is a life shattering experience.

    I have seen a person break down in tears simply because her boss wanted the formatting on a report to be changed slightly. She wasn't going to be fired, or even reprimanded. The boss simply wanted a different look after seeing the original report. I know that parents want to shelter their kids from the cruel outside world, but one day, those children are going to have to live in it and we are the ones who are going to have to put up with them.
     
  8. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    There was an study called "the nagging report" that says the best way to sell something to kids is to make them beg for it.

    The report shows that 40% of disney world tourist were there because their kids wanted to (or more like they broke their parents balls until they took them there).

    Parents these day barely want to have kids at all, so they will buy any shit they kids want if that shut the little bastards for some time.

    The duty of these corporations is train the kids for this task.
     
  9. Paulo

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    Do you ever think about the things you say before you type them out....?
     
  10. Mark30001

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    I just had to watch the video over and over again.

    I don't really see what the girl did wrong. She was really interested in the iPod Nano, heck, when I was much younger I was interested in sending Nintendo ideas to make their products better. She got a letter and was upset, big deal! Wouldn't any inspired child get upset if they received a letter like that? I don't personally see what is wrong with the letter.

    Her mother should have explained to her daughter instead of getting the whole ordeal on the news.
     
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  11. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Kids should definitely smoke way more weed than they do.
     
  12. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    I got lots of ass-beatings as a child. Probably not hard to believe as one of the more senior members here. My mother definitely gave me the most, followed by my father who gave the most painful ones (and my last one outside of school, which I will never forget).

    I got licks at all 3 of my schools (primary, middle, high). In middle school, from the principal, they stung, but he always shook your hand afterwards and you went on about your day. I got them from the football coach once, and had 3 nice sized bruises across both cheeks. Too bad I was too big of a pussy to tell my parents. Could've sued the school and really fucked my life up. High school was similar. They stung from the principal, but the football coaches hurt the worst. Coaches have the best job in the world. They basically get paid to inflict pain on young kids.
     
  13. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    The natality numbers are in an all time low...

    Oh sure is better to hear shit from the parents, then one day you get a child into the office with bruises all over and no way to explain how the loving father beated the crap out of the poor kid.

    Honestly I'm sick of people denying reality, saying his son killed another kid because a videogame told him to do so, but the kicks he received from his dad? no, that means nothing:rolleyes:

    Look, things are pretty nasty nowadays, there's a lot of people having kids they just dont want, and that's not going to change because we deny it...

    About that study, I think is shameful how corporations abuse at expenses of the parent's patience just to increase sales.
     
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    this is going nowhere.
     
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