Looking for cheap universal programmer

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  1. LeHaM

    LeHaM Site Soldier

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    Hi all I think it's time to get a programmer..

    basically I want something that will read and write a bunch of different chips

    a list of what I want to do with it. (I'm on my phone and can't look up all the names of the chips)

    burn ps1 mod chips/programm pics
    Mess around with Repo snes carts
    maybe mess around with xbox TSOPS using a TSOP clip
    also use it on the ps3 to downgrade the the NAND using the TSOP clip (there is a kit you can buy but I'd rather do it with a fully fledged programmer)

    Make a snes super cic ??

    Im aware if have to get adapters for the different package types

    basically tinker with stuff
    I found this and looks nice and pro haha
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Sale...grammer-EPROM-MCU-GAL-PIC-G540/623864097.html

    budget is under $100 prefer closer to $50
     
  2. Zer0-2k11

    Zer0-2k11 Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    Ah the genius programmers. The hardware might be good not sure in that department, but just a heads up the software is terrible. From what i know, to do NAND flashes and have something decent, you're looking at $300 and up
     
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  3. Tiibz

    Tiibz Rising Member

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    i suggest you take a teensy to program Nor and Nand of PS3, it's by far the best solution in my opinion
    for the rest i can't be very helpful sorry
     
  4. sanni

    sanni Intrepid Member

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    First of all I have to say that Baite is a very good vedor. Second I only have experience with the TL866 which is a very low cost programmer especially if you consider the frequent 3-5$ vouchers on aliexpress. And that TL866 is really good although it does not burn all the chips like it can't program 27c322 eprom. But if you need something cheap that can program most of the basics stuff like atmel or pic or eprom or flash, then this one might be right for you.
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    TSOP clips are terrible.
    You cant do NAND cheap on a universal programmer, for $50 you are looking on the very low end. Even at $100 isnt going to get you much.

    You need to lower your expectations somewhat
     
  6. LeHaM

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    how hard is the teensy to use? and can you use clips instead of soldering ??

    Yeah I've seen a lot of people mention the 866, so out of my list it will do most things (don't worry about ps3 NAND I'll probs go with a teensy)
    I am thinking of trying to directly flash the TSOP on an xbox ( has anyone ever done this) not super important but if it could do it Thats a bonus!
    retrojunkie uses a 866 iirc and he made a snes cart, there EEPROMs right?


    Ok so I've ruled out ps3/NAND / nor
    Thanks guys
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    Yes, many people have directly flashed a TSOP.

    But its completely pointless if the console is working, only worth doing if the original is corrupt and it wont boot.
     
  8. LeHaM

    LeHaM Site Soldier

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    My reasoning is
    a: fast ( because I'll probably be needing to TSOP a lot of consoles)
    b: will also be handy for fixing corrupt units
    c: it's something new I want to learn :D
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    A:) TSOP test clips are crap. It wont be faster
    B:) Yes, it will. But TSOP test clips are crap.
    C:) its honestly just opening a .bin file and pressing program.
     
  10. Segata Sanshiro

    Segata Sanshiro speedlolita

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    I'd like something that could burn SNES/Genesis ROMs or similar and stuff like PS1 modchips/BIOS chips. Any recommendation?
     
  11. GillBert

    GillBert Spirited Member

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    I own a MiniPro TL866, it's fine for programming EEPROM chips (24 25 93 series), PICs and other old stuff in PLC package. But for modern TSOP NANDs it only supports a few chips. Here's a support list (Crtl + F).
     
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    Hmm so to start a 866 is good??
     
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    kneehighspy <B>Site Supporter 2013</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    i purchased the 866cs then added my own icsp ports and flashed the firmware to make it a 866a. it does most of the projects i want and its priced pretty good.
     
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    I looked on aliexpress and the 866a is $50 but the CS is like $80!? I thought the A
    was better??

    im probably going to be buying in the next few days so if there is a better solution please someone let me know :D

    whats the ic used in the super cic mod (I'm assuming 866a will program it)..
     
  15. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

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    Pay attention to what adapters are included with each. That might explain the difference. Some come with a basic set, some with none at all.
    (Or maybe people have gotten wise to the fact you can reflash a -CS to an -A, and the sellers bet on them not even looking for the A models and thus not noticing the difference?)

    Also, for some package formats - e.g. the SOP44 chips used here - you'll likely need to also order an "expansion set" of sorts containing the proper adapters.
     
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    Ok I'm going to go ahead and buy the one I just linked, if I'm making a mistake please tell me before I buy it :) haha
     
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    kneehighspy <B>Site Supporter 2013</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    i think you will be happy with your choice. have one myself and converted it into the 866A model by adding the icsp ports and upgrading the firmware.

    good little programmer for the cost. my main old programmer was a pocket programmer 2, parallel version and a couple of its adapters work with my 866A.
     
  20. Mord.Fustang

    Mord.Fustang My goodness, it's nipley out!

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    You can make your own serial programmers for pretty cheap for some of those and Teensy (for PS3 downgrades) is only about $30.

    Be careful with programmers because when I wanted one I went for the cheapo USB K-150 to do PIC chips and learned quickly that you get what you pay for with programmers. For PS1 PIC chips I had a much easier time with my own homemade serial one than I did a cheap USB one.
     
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