Man gets arrested for trying to take his kidnapped children home.

Man gets arrested for trying to take his kidnapped children home.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/09/29/japan.father.abduction/index.html

What a load of crap! If I was a kid and ever found out a parent of mine did that (after I grew up enough to realize it), it would be a big F*** YOU and "I'm never want to see you again, I'm going back home to America.". That, of course, before I try every legal option to cripple said guardians life.

<Serenity Now!... Serenity now!>

 

It's because of reading stories like that is I have a hard time trusting the intentions of Japanese. My wife is Japanese and I love her, but what would happen is the same thing happened to me? I'd probably try something similar.

In fact, this opens a whole different can of worms. Japan, as a country, just does not have much intention at all to reform to world standards unless it's to their own benefit. It is just not a country that's concerned with the general well being of humankind. They only care about their own. I hate to say it, but I really don't see much difference between Japanese (moral) policies now and Japanese policies pre-1945, other than the fact that countries like America have forced them to "behave".

Feel free to flame me, but that's how I feel. Perhaps having lived in Korea for a bit and now in Japan for a few years and seen this kind of crap a lot more often has influenced my opinions like this.

 

Lets bomb them again then they'll reform to world standards

 

I don't really find that funny. I know you're sarcastic, so no bad feelings, but that's just a subject I don't like to mix with humour.

 

I find this highly, highly disturbing.

In all fairness, the man could've done a better job at getting the children back again though. Like taking them at a point when the wife wasn't around. But the fact that he had to take such desperate actions speaks for itself I think.

 

Ya, I don't know why he didn't do it properly. Like when the mother would have no idea about it. That way, there would be no interception at the embassy. But why even all this talk? Aren't the kids US Citizens? Doesn't that count for something?

 

If the wife has the passports he couldn't take them out of the country, which is why he went to the embassy. As to the US citizenship and the US doing something about this, that's the whole point/problem being made in the article.

 

so what i don't get on this story. the wifey did the same before and it was not considered as a crime in the view of japanese law (parental child abduction). so why it's now considered as a crime, when the daddy does the very same? it's not an abduction of some minors, they're still his kids as well.

 

I have an aquaintance writing a documentary on the subject:
http://www.fortakaandmana.com/

The story in the documentary is even more extreme: the mother had NO visitation rights... the father let her see his children b/c he's got his fucking head screwed on straight and knows children need BOTH parents, even when one is a psycho woman.

I've talked about this a few times here. The point is, Japan's whole idea of divorce is "to let the parents work it out themselves". What they don't realize is how immature people can be -- especially Japanese women (yes, I said it). There is no such thing as joint custody. Fuck, there's no such thing as joint bank accounts OR joint ownership of a assets such as a house. When the divorce happens, one parent gets custody, an the other pays a VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY IN CHILD SUPPORT. In actuality what works out is the father usually just pays up to see his kid. If the wife is rich, he's probably fucked until the kids are 18. If he's a dead beat dad, the wife and kid are fucked. And like most laws in Japan, they're aren't very enforceable. If the bread winner quits paying child support, nothing really happens. Also worth noting is the difficulties in getting a divorce in the first place.

Correct. The wife had custody (at least partial) in the US. The father in Japan doesn't, for the most part. There are other cool little tricks the Japanese excuse for a Judicial system has when it comes to children. A friend of mine's wife died, and her parents of coures blamed her husband and kept feeding his daughter bullshit. His embassy told him if the grandparents reported him as abusing the child, he wouldn't lose custody, but he'd be arrested if he tried to leave the country with her. So, he did the smartest thing. Didn't say a word, grabbed her, and gave them the finger from the airport.

Also worth noting is Japan's abnormally high conviction rate. The thing going for this guy is that it's such a big profile case, some diplomats might get involved and Japan's 100 or so years of lethargic law making could possibly be exposed for what it is: a pile of shit. If it happened, perhaps mine & Yakumo's kids could live in a semi-first world place.

 

I'll take "Because he is not Japanese" for 200 Alex.

 

As a friend of mine very bluntly (and frequently puts it). "We are the niggers of Japan".

 

You are 100% Correct. Everything you said is true! I fully agree.

And you are a dumb ass:nod:

Now that's what you should do. If such a situation would to occur with myself that's what I'd do. Get my son, say nothing then fuck off back to the UK with him. Once in the Uk the Japanese wouldn't be able to touch us.

One can only hope.ray:

 

Hopefully enough outrage, death threats, Sepaku request, or what have you happens to the mother that she's so embarrassed or harassed in every day life that she comes to her senses. Hopefully the kids wise up too, and once they realize what happened, they start kicking and screaming. Cry kidnapping, child abuse, anything to get that messed up mom away from them.

This is one case where I wouldn't mind seeing the United States go "Now, looking at the facts, you can't deny the kidnapping from the US to Japan. Release the kids for common sense sake, otherwise the next time you need something from us we leave you hanging out to dry."

 

Funny how this country makes a big deal about North Korean abducting their own (and it is a big deal), but when their own citizens effectively do the same thing... Well, I already said how I feel about this in my previous post. And they wonder why a lot of Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc. hate them so much. Of course, when the government and school system here denies their own real history, a lot of people wonder why all the hate towards them because they really are clueless. It's a bloody sick tragedy.

After being here for 3.5 years and Korea for 1, I really empathize a lot more with the Koreans than I do with the Japanese on most international issues.

 

Could it be that he is not a Japanese citizen or native?:shrug:

All I know is that this is a bunch of BS.

A man Gets thrown in jail for taking his Children back? What has this world come to eh?

 

To put everything into perspective, even if the woman kidnapped children that weren't her own, while the government might return the children, they would not, under any circumstance, extradite the woman. They have no extradition policies with anyone to my knowledge. I know they don't with the US.

 

That's when you show a large wad of cash to a man with Back tatoos

 

Yeah, but that doesn't work for those of us that don't live inside a video game.

 

The problem here is that America won't do that because where do you think they get a great deal of their funding from? Yes, that's right. The dumb fucks in power here in Japan.

 

Well thats a bit of an exaggeration, nobody is being lynched.

(or am I missing a joke?)