People seem to be unable to have a decent, respectful conversation when it comes to microsoft hardware. Therefore, this forum is now gone. I don't have hours a day to deal with bullshit and drama. I would direct people to the many xbox sites on the net to replace this forum. ASSEMbler
Well, that sucks. I do wonder though whether it'd be more fair and balanced to kill the Sony one too, as there is often ridiculously unbalanced opinion too. Hell, you may as well kill off the Nintendo Wii threads, as people are always critical of it. Tell you what - we may as well shut down the forum as to be honest with you, all of the areas of this forum spark controversy once in a while. Really, guys? You decide that we're better off killing the section of the forum dedicated to one of the most played console manufacturers over some fanboys? I'm sure it won't be missed, but still it's a bit saddening.
The problem Mooseblaster, is that someone gets a little bit of knowledge from getting help from someone, and then instead of turning around and helping other people learn they just shun and flame them for not being born with the knowledge... I really hope one day this changes in the Xbox scene, but from the looks of things it wont for a LONG time. Sad to see the forum go. I Didn't post in it much, but it was nice to see some things in there. I understand COMPLETELY why its gone though
I'll be honest, I don't have much (if any) interest in the xboxes stuff, but from time to time I did read some threads in the dedicated section, like the recent Chihiro one from Parris for example, wouldn't it have been better to just lock the Microsoft section than to purely remove it?
well you can still view the forum here http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=38 but you cant post in it. that is all
Its a sad day for me then... As you guys can tell by my post count im just a lurker round these here parts, initaially attracted by the MS section, i only really signed up for the Marketplace as i find that a good read too. My kit should be arriving within 2 weeks, and i was planning on being a lot more active round here, obviously mainly in the MS section. Please Assembler, reconsider this, how bout taking on a couple of moderators soley for the MS forum, there are quite a few well respected, knowledgable and most importantly trustworthy people that could do this job, xenon.7 for example seems more than qualified. Without sounding like a whinning kiss ass.. I have not found any other forums that are populated to the extent of this forum is in regards to XeXDK discussion. Gamerfreaks site is cool, but unfortunatly isnt very well populated yet... Xbox scene is a joke these days and the forum is hardly worth visiting. If there are anymore that i may have missed i would love people to drop me a pm with links. Thanks for reading this by the way, im back off to my lurking hole.
Its not that we need more moderators for the section its that people dont respect anyone. Not even once ASSEMbler him self asks for people to stop they still carry on afterwards. If people have no self control then no ammount of modderation is going to help things.
*sigh* Whilst I don't want to admit it, you're definitely right on this subject. I'm just annoyed that it turned out this way. As the old Penny Arcade addage goes:
No it wasn't fine as it was. You made it close and it was my favorite part of this site, thanks alot asshole.
Or perhaps you should've been more mature and not a whining " I know it all so I'm better than you" prick. If it was up to me I'd have kicked you out a long time ago. Alas, it's not up to me so you're safe, for now. People like you annoy me till no end.
The few persons to whom this was directed in particular, should have taken it more seriously. In a forum you stick to the rules or you discuss them but you don't just ignore them. Closing down the whole forum, though, doesn't help with "advancing knowledge and understanding". The development subforums are some of the most interesting parts of the ASSEMbler forums and even if not many had someting to contribute I am sure they were read by many. Closing one means to punish all members equally.
good thing i got my problem sorted out just before this to bad some poeple have to ruin it for everyone, though i do have to agree its for the better
Im sorry but, this statement makes no sense to me. It would make more sense to prune the topics with the BS in and ban offenders for repeated breaches of the rules and bad etiquite. If the current moderation team has too much to deal with then take on a few more, hell its not like you have to pay them a wage. By getting rid of the MS section and not banning the offenders, aint it likley that the same people will most likley head to different sub forums? I 100% agree that the elitest attitude that plagues the microsoft scene needs to disapeer however, but i still believe that this can be achieved with good moderation, if your an ass, you will get banned/susspended. Most of us around here are good, mature folk, and its kinda sad to be penilised by the actions of a few people with no self control that should have just been banned.
Well all you need to do is take a look at the Microsoft forum to see the offending users and privately request to the admin that the community feels they shouldn't be here. On another note about the moderating it would require us to read every topic and then act out on it. Thats not only time consuming but the topic isn't that interesting to many of the moderators. Another reason is the policy here is to avoid deleting anything as much as possible (outside the marketplace that is). This is because previously when we were moderating heavily people took issue with it and did not like the previous policy as the moderation was very content based. Then the last reason i can see is take a look at this topic as an example. There's one or two posts that personally i don't think add anything to this conversation or are just rude and could do with being removed. The problem with that is i would then have to remove that post and any posts after it that quote them. Then there are the people who are rude in reply who also make valid points in their post. So by deleting on post there is the potential to lose other posts that have valuable content that could actually help other people. So really its not just the amount of work but the fact content might be lost in moderating the idiots that cant control themselves.
Well i do agree that it could of been more constant however i don't know how useful it would of been. I mean aside from one or two very rude posts on a rare occasion that would of been delete its policy to not delete posts. Also adding to that even after ASSEMbler him self has stepped in at times and asked for people to stop 2-3 posts after it just carries on. So the mods either have to delete 5-10 posts and possibly lose valuable information or leave it and ask for them to stop. However if we start deleting posts the argument becomes as to why we deleted it, it wasn't rude in their opinion and so on. Its a no win situation. Link to previous discussion about new rules. http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9751