Modchip raids have gone too far - do something about it!

I can recommend this. Best country on Earth...!

 

nah~ we do have our share of problems... -- --a

bit OT: The way things going at the moment, we might ended up 70/80s style bully union movement dominated retarded country... T^T

 

this may be appropriate for the ot topic

 

If I move somewhere it will be Canada. They dont seem to be so hardcore and they are only a short ways north of Ohio (where I currently Live) I have also heard good things about their Healh Care systems

 

But Australia's a PAL territory, and they get shafted even more than Europe, I think.

Care to correct me anyone?

Anyways, move to Canada :clap:

 

Yeah, a PS3 is just under $1000 AUD (about $800 USD) and new release games are around $100 AUD (about $80 USD). We have a goods and services tax (GST) which is like the UKs VAT, except only at 10% for now.

 

Because everyone has a PS3. The PSN also offers every available PS1 game that anyone could conceivably want as well. :thumbsup:

I do understand you, though. :nod: Personally, if I were to get an Xbox and load it full of emus and ROMS, I would have no problem paying for Kirby Super Star if it ever came out on the VC despite my already having it in ROM form. That's just me, though..

 

So. Thats like saying its OK to pirate PS1/PS2 games and play them on a PC emulator because of the same basis (dont wish to purcahse said system and complain that games of another territory are not avalible in your territory). It's a bullshit argument no matter how you slice it.

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If you want to buy a french game to play then BUY A FREAKING FRENCH CONSOLE.

The arguments people make on lik-sang against sony are just retarded. It's like getting pist off at your local police for busting your local drug dealer where you might or might not buy some pot.

In this current generation, Region Locking is becomming a moot point as PS3 is region free and 2/3 of xbox 360 software is also region free. If you want to bitch about region encoding then go bitch about that. Don't come bitching about lik-sang being shut down for selling illegal goods (which it's done for YEARS) because you want to make your console region free.

 

Move to Japan. Then you don't need to modify your console . You'll be in the land of milk and honey .

 

Lik-Sang wasn't shut down for mod chips (though they've been sued for that in the past), it was shut down for selling foreign PSPs to the UK before the UK release date.

 

Unofficial they got shut down because of their gray/black market goods which Sony really couldn't pin them down on. But it was because of the PSP sales that Sony had full legal reason to shut them down.

 

First of all 99.9999999% of files like that on P2P networks are falsely titled.
Second of all, how could they possibly be innocent when they have hard evidence, including chat logs, pictures, and them physically showing up? It's against the law to even conduct those sorts of chats with minors, they're already guilty before they even show up at the house.

And lastly, from just a few months ago:
http://www.out-law.com/page-2732
Large scale, international raid shuts down a child porn ring - The details aren't in that article but some of the people busted in that actually raped their own childen live on webcams for each other. Child porn raids aren't going to show up too often on CNN or your local news, unless it was a local raid. Just search Google News for child porn raids, you'll find plenty in the past year.

 

Pretty much what he said. Sony only went after lik-sang over the whole PSP issue even tho many other well known import sites were still shipping to the UK.

Lik-Sang esentualy pushed them self into a position to shut them self down. They easly could have cut stuff early and still survived.

 

Not really. I figure, if the games are no longer being actively manufactured anymore (Herc's Adventures - PS1), then it doesn't matter if I pirate it or not. I wouldn't necessarily pirate the PS2 because it's still actively doing business. However, I believe what you're getting at is that, people with seemingly legitimate reasons for using mods (regional delays/substandard games, media center, emulators) are in the minority compared to somebody who just wants to pirate so he will never have to pay for new games again.

 

Why the hell should I buy a French console to accompany my American\Canadian\Wherever you want-landish console? Because ol Mr K and Billy G say I should? *Whipping noise* I suppose it's not good enough that I buy games, I have to buy another system every time. Even if Lik Sang wern't shut for selling foreign PSPs, (which this http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/10/23/sony_defeats_lik-sang/ article says, and includes quotes like:
"The ruling comes as no surprise given the precedent-based judgements awarded to SCEE against other PSP importers in the run up to the PSP's launch in the UK. In each case, the ruling was founded upon alleged violation of Sony trademarks, a trick that's been used in the past by other manufacturers keen to prevent canny resellers and retailers offering lower prices by purchasing through unofficial channels.")
Can you name me a good reason for not being able to import games, should I want?
Oh, and I'm against mod chips for most (IE. Infringment) purposes anyway.

 

The whole issue with imported games and consoles are, in my opinion, due to the myopia from most execs.

15 years ago it was a problem, but nowadays local branchs of sony, MS and nintendo could easily sell these games (and the special adaptors to make your console region-free, or even foreign consoles) online or by catalog, so they can avoid retailer costs and most ESRB requeriments (after all, if you buy with a credit card you've to be at least 18-yr old or more).

 

Portable systems are region free and the PS3 is region free
360 is KINDA region free the Wii will be eventually.

So yeah we'll get to the point where we won't need mod chips to play imports.

 

Ahh... but it's not illegal to unlock your phone! It is however illegal to "unlock" your game system.

Remember according to the DCMA, all processes and technologies that allow you to circumvent copy protection are in fact "illegal." This is the part of the law that needs to be changed, as it goes too far.

Pirating games (which is what the thread has focused on) is totally illegal, was illegal before the DCMA and would still be illegal if this particular portion of the law was made less restrictive. What I'm saying is that modchips should not be included under this part of the law, in the same way that merely owning something that could be used in a crime isn't for the most part illegal (say, a firearm for example.)

P.S. - If you people out in other countries think that the DCMA doesn't affect you, think again. Any company that does business in the United States will be restricted by it in someway, this includes international trade policy (i.e. electronic components and devices,) software, etc. You may not be subject to jail time, but it does affect what you can and cannot buy to some degree.