Modchip raids have gone too far - do something about it!

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Hawanja, Aug 4, 2007.

  1. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    I m sure that if they d let NEC and LG joiin in the next XBOX platform would be a viable solution financially. Even the current XBOX could benefit to some extent from sharing the cost.
     
  2. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    I can see samsung buyin it, but I'm not that sure about the hardware section...

    About getting hardware 3rd parties onboard, at this point is useless since a profitable X360 (as in the unit itself) is not that far away, so getting other companies onboard would just cut into MS profits.

    I say MS should release a portable...
     
  3. GarethDE

    GarethDE Rapidly Rising Member

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    If your logic was correct, Atari would still be #1.

    Both Nintendo and Sega have also risen and fallen since then, which again proves your theory to be incorrect.
     
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  4. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    a portable? That would like dropping a baby in DS-shark-infested waters - and the occasional PSP piranha taking a bite.
     
  5. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    And Microsoft with the Zune have shown how much market share they can take from the leaders Apple and Sandisk... They'll do the same if they release an Xbox Micro [/Sarcasm]

    Although Microsoft releasing a portable has me thinking it would be the size of the Atari Lynx 1...
     
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  6. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Meh, I could tell in 30 seconds what Sony did right with the PSP, but it would take me an hour to say all things they did wrong.

    The zune was too little too late: if MS had released it at the time of the 4th gen ipod it would've destroyed it no doubt, since the only PMP with those specs were a few archos players, but those never had the kind of support a massive corporation like MS can give to a product.

    But what MS did with the zune is taking an already old toshiba MP3 player and rebrand it, then go against the apple empire which has a bigger grasp in the market than what sony has, and I'm not talking about the walkman, but the iPod's market share against the PS2's.

    I say the Zune would've had a better chance of being a market leader if it was a portable console rather than just another music player, since with nintendo's old fart tech (DS) and sony's lack of decent games (PSP) a portable with the price/catalog approach of the X360 would've kicked ass, both financially and among users.
     
  7. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    The major thing Sony did wrong with the PSP was launch it. Nintendo are a formidable foe in the handheld gaming sector.
     
  8. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Sony fault was not properly taking the DS serious enough and trying to counter it insted of just letting it steam roll over the psp.

    Ds did not really take off till the Lite anyways. Prior to that Sony had a chance if they actualy put as much focus on the psp then that they are slowly starting to do now.
     
  9. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    Sony should....

    Get rid of sodding UMD as soon as it can. UMD as a portable format fails as it's too big (bigger then the GB cartridges of old), to fragile and too easy to get dirt and dust onto it. With memory cartridges falling in price and 2GB+ being possible why is UMD an atractive format again? Getting rid of UMB would also mean the PSP could be smaller still as you wouldn't have the rattlely noisy drive on the machine.

    Make the screen better so it doesn't get full of finger prints as soon as you look at it.

    Make the analogue stick better, it's crap and too difficult to really use as an analogue stick unless you really really try.

    Make a touch screen, so what if people say "but its copying the DS", it's not like it's not been around since the days of the PDA, I was playing games with a stylus before the SP was a twinkle in Nintendos pants.

    Although we are getting off topic, shall we create a new "Microsoft / Sony fail" thread.

    On topic. Mod Chips are the work of Satan and his minions. :p
     
  10. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    actually the spinning of a disk drains a lot more battery than a cart/flash cart.
     
  11. Tomcat

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    I only have one Mod chipped console - Panasonic Game Cube. I only have this as it was a cheap deal. On the whole I am against them as I am Piracy. Let us have region free consoles to stop the Cloak that the pirates hide under.
     
  12. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    We need better pirates i believe.You know, the type with the eye-patch (iPatch) and the wooden peg. I m sick of dealing with people dressed like geeks handing me CD-recordables.
     
  13. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Memory chips would need to be alot cheaper. UMD have shown their advantage as PSP games drop in price faster then DS games do. DS games are far more expensive to manufacture then PSP games and they only reach 2Gbit at max (256MB vs psp 1.5GB, most psp games are 300-600MB).

    As much as people knock UMD, I would say the UMD has been vital in making the PSP what it is today.
     
  14. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    A portable media player that can play games...
     
  15. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Honestly I dont believe the UMD was a bad decision at all, altought I do think that trying to market it as some sort of portable replacement for the DVD was a bad idea, specially with video downloads just across the corner [back in the day].

    Carts are still too expensive and I'm starting to believe that the nextgen of portable systems will use either optical media or massive NAND/magnetic storage rather than carts.

    But even with the 2.5/3 hours battery life, the slightly bulky design and some control issues, the PSP is a great console, but with a major flaw that has decided which console wins and which one fails since the dawn of the VG era: how many games it has and how good those games are.

    The fact is that the PSP has very few games you can call "killer apts" and sony may have had better sales if they had offered the average gamer a download service like virtual console from the very beginning.

    The PSP Slim could be a great opportunity to fix these issues yet sony is still making bad decisions like using a smaller battery. They say the old one would be like a bump in the Slim, yet the GBC had a bump (from changing the AAA batteries from the GBP to AA) and that didnt make it uncomfortable to hold at all, not did that hinder the sales.
     
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  16. opethfan

    opethfan Dauntless Member

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    Piracy is bad. No one should raid ships.

    Copyright infringment on the other hand....
     
  17. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    People whine about the battery life but that's only really an issue on long trips. It's the idea of a shorter battery life that makes people rant and rave I suppose. Not many people I know play a handheld for more than 8hrs except on a long haul flight.

    The PSP isn't a failure, it's just the DS Lite is such a mega success that in comparison it looks poor. Once PS3 sales improve a lot more PSPs will be sold I reckon.
     
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  18. andoba

    andoba Site Supporter 2014

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    Oh sure. Last time I went to buy some food, I found a dude selling copied Wii games and Famicom 99999999999999 in 1 carts.

    SGAE is doing some very huge hurt with this stuff. Police now goes against top manta. Import scene is dead, back before shops had PAL games, and JAP games. They even tax us a 5% in DVD-R, CD-R, a USB HDD, an iPod, a PSP or whatever that has removable media storage just in case we use them to pirate music / video / pancakes or whatever.

    This has changed a lot in the lastest 10 years, they even do raids to the modchipping stores, like ChipSpain... What does suck.

    And by the way, I doubt that shops like GameSpot, Centro Mail, GAME, el corte ingles, Carrefour, Eroski, or something like that, will modchip you a console. That a small shop in some neighbor does it's another thing. Most of times, if you want a modchip you need to go to a modchip store, or lend it to somewho that does install modchips. It's not like you go to GameSpot and tell them, "hey, install me a modchip on my 360, I ran out of money for Bioshock".
     
  19. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Yeah I heard about those taxes on blank media, but as far as I know is all becos of the music and movie industry bitching at MP3s and P2P for the downlope in their sales charts...

    And read carefully: I said ONLY franchise stores (like Mail and gamespot) didnt sold you modchips.
     
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