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  1. wheelaa

    wheelaa FM Towns / MD Addict Site Supporter 2010-2015

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    Badad
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    Well balanced and/or very active people.

    Wish some of the older members would return too, that should be a mod mission!

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    Taucias and Wombat too. How could I forget such fine members.

    Edit 2...just seen Badad says not for him....shame....
     
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  2. Taijigamer2

    Taijigamer2 Gutsy Member

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    That's a shame, your knowledge and skill would be an asset to the forums.
     
  3. mairsil

    mairsil Officer at Arms

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    Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I have too many conflicts of interest which prevent me from taking an official role here.
     
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  4. wheelaa

    wheelaa FM Towns / MD Addict Site Supporter 2010-2015

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    Oh, and Motzilla.

    Damn, still a lot of great members really. Sorry if I missed you!
     
  5. MBMM

    MBMM Powered by Pied Piper

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    I know we've never really had much contact, but :( :( :(

    Kidding.
     
  6. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    Reason if i may ask?
     
  7. GoodTofuFriday

    GoodTofuFriday Site Supporter 2015,2016,2017

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    While I cannot speak for Bad_ad, below is why I'm teetering on retracting my own application (this was in response to a comment from Johnny):

    Considering that i command entire smaller companies to do work in NYC, I'm very well aware of what carnage change can cause.
    However, large portions of the site rules have been changed at the same time with immediate effect, and failure to adhere is met with absolute judgement.
    In any setting, be it a forum or change in government, sweeping immidate change without time to adjust has never ended well for anyone.
    Public reprimandation is also a means for children to be humiliated into submission.
    We are not children here. We can hand out reprimandations in an adult like manor.
    Also consider the very lax tone that has been accepted here for years. You cannot expect that change overnight by simply banning people. Youll just cause further exedous from here.
     
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  8. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    So you think silently banning people without giving any reason would have been the way to go?

    Things went downhill for various reasons, but even before the downtime a certain "toxicity" was taking roots. Things had to be done to bring the forum back to where it was back then. Cleaning up, enforcing better behaviour and respectful discussion are what we need now to be able to roll out the new features that will come and refresh the place.
     
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  9. -=FamilyGuy=-

    -=FamilyGuy=- Site Supporter 2049

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    I think Tofu has a point about the "immidate change without time to adjust" part though. More warnings could've been given to ease the transition, or shorter bans. With a notice that it'd get more severe on date X.
     
  10. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    My reason for withdrawing my application is because I disagree with the direction that the site seems to be heading under the new "Admin". The sites draw is the users and their knowledge, without that its just a forum that could be found anywhere.

    While I don't know what goes on behind the scenes (I am sure there is plenty of drama etc), I do see how this looks from the outside as a user and as a user, I can see this approach making people stop posting. Handing out harsh bans to make an example of people doesn't sit well with me at all.

    So I am just removing myself from a situation of disagreement where I will either speak my mind (and probably get demoted anyway) or have to hold my tongue as the role is only a trial. As I disagree with the current course, it wouldn't be appropriate to apply for the role.

    It was never about the prestige, only that I wanted to do my part to help out around here. But I will likely just be a pain to the administration.
     
  11. GoodTofuFriday

    GoodTofuFriday Site Supporter 2015,2016,2017

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    Not silent. Of course communicate with who was banned and tell them why. I figured that was a given. I see no place to make that public.
    And we/yoy can implement all the new features rules you want. But expecting complete compliance and adhearation next day from an entire community is not practical.
    It takes time to adjust to things. You cant expect that overnight. You especially cannot expect the light hearted/relaxed tone to change over night either.
    As is extensively apparent from all members except mods/admin, the immdiate and overnight change in the "vibe" has not been a welcome one.
     
  12. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    On this i can kinda agree, but some of those actions you can consider them the same as when a referee gives a Yellow card after one player commints a lot of non-yellow worth small fauls :D

    I guess we can all agree some warnings/suspensions/bans should have been issued for some users ages ago... Now we need a better ground to build up.

    Mind me, some mistakes or overevaluation may happen, but if a user mocks those telling him to stay in check or challenges them making a bigger infraction on purpouse... Oh well he's asking to be picked on and made an example for not being a good user/grown up individual.

    (Just an example)
     
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  13. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    To be honest the things are smooth and dramaless for now behind the scenes. And we are working hard to make sure people will be "recognized" or "awarded" for their constructive contributions here.

    If you have some special concerns or questions you can pm me about them.

    I know we are looking strict and hard, but it's for a greater good, and it won't be like this forever. Things have to get back to "ordinary administration".
     
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  14. notataco64

    notataco64 Rapidly Rising Member

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    I think @MBMM would make a good mod. Level-headed individual, respectful, seems to be mindful of the community at large.

    You likely don't need to heed this advice, but remember: If forum moderating slowly morphs you into a Napoleon or a Hitler, you might as well go large - expand an empire or build a new one. I think one of them was a mod on Sonic Retro until scenedrama made them ragequit but my memory is spotty (Adolphog? Bonpartails? I cannot recall)
     
  15. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Nothing much to add here. Basically the forum had attracted so many smart ass users. They didn't care about the community. All they cared about was what they could get for free. That's not what Assemblergames is about. We are about sharing, respect for one another and discussion on the rare and unusual. Not the latest Xbox wares or crap like that.
     
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  16. mairsil

    mairsil Officer at Arms

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    I do agree with this. However, those aren't the people that got banned/carded. Regardless of the size of their contributions, the ones that got banned ARE part of the community. Sure, some of them got pissy, but a zero tolerance to human behavior and showing emotion of any kind isn't going to work. The only toxicity I've seen recently, even in the days before "The Event", was hatred towards retro. I've never had a problem with him and I know he worked his ass off trying to get the site back up, but I definitely saw some of the nasty threads/comments he was mentioned in.

    A long time ago (I'm too lazy to look it up, it was probably a couple of years ago at this point, during one of the community lulls), Kevin put up a posting saying how the people here had to be more open, more welcoming to new members. What happened to that?
     
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  17. MoonTar

    MoonTar Site Supporter 2014

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    So it is just Xbox people causing problems then? So further Xbox discussions are not allowed? I did hear a rumor the Xbox section was going to be removed entirely because either the Admin or mods did not like the Xbox or the users in that forum. I hope this does not happen. This site is not S7 and not everyone is toxic with regards to the Xbox.
     
  18. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    This pretty much sums up everything.

    Over the years a lot of problems started to show up and became almost a routine. Before, it was Kevin that used to take all the heat, now it's all of us.

    Now and even then, the forums were always open for everyone. Still, i have yet to receive a PM from any member, saying that the mods should rethink this or that decision. It's always misguided rage, calling out the staff "dictators", threats or other odd behaviours.
     
  19. GoodTofuFriday

    GoodTofuFriday Site Supporter 2015,2016,2017

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    At least that im aware, those werent the users that were most recently banned, so i dont see the connection between the issues you observe and the actions that have been taken.

    No need to pm a complaint. There have been plenty of "normal" complaints made abundant through the site via regular users. That or the "odd behaviors" are on purpose to illicite a response from the mods, as any normal complaint has seem to gone unanswered.
     
  20. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Mostly XBOX 360 and XBOX ONE forums.
     
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