Music Producers...

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  1. C-Rocks

    C-Rocks Spirited Member

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    Are there any on the forum?

    I think I remember seeing there was a few?


    Heres my myspace page, feel free to add me, although i use msn a lot more.

    www.myspace.com/chrisporterrocks

    Just intrested to see if there are many other guys interested in this on here :thumbsup:

    The tune I have on the myspace page is one ive had released on a record label called Android sub label of Bonzai

    lookin forward to hearing some other assembler producers!

    p.s.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSkW_Wk1XTs

    for any zelda fans, a deadmau5 remix (been out a wile) :)
     
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  2. Vosse

    Vosse Well Known Member

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    Electronic Music eh? It's a bit repetitive but I like it

    I Do arrangements in the Video Game Remixing community. Such as
    http://dod.vgmix.com/current.php Under the moniker "BONKERS"
     
  3. C-Rocks

    C-Rocks Spirited Member

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    a bit repetitive? LOL

    most music these days is made with a DAW and various samples/vsts

    i was asking more for proper music, not some rehash of videogame melodies.
     
  4. Vosse

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    Repetitive because it sits there in the same notes over and over and over and it never goes anywhere.
    It relies heavily on the listener probably not even paying attention to the music(because there really isn't any music at all there)but only hearing the beat.

    And yes most modern music is made with DAW's But that's irrelevant to the repetitiveness of that song.

    You lose points for thinking Video Game Music isn't proper Music.

    Shame shame, shows you have no real passion for music at all.
    Music is Music regardless of what medium, output or venue it's released in.
     
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  5. C-Rocks

    C-Rocks Spirited Member

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    hahahahaha

    I had a good LOL at your statement....

    For isntance you obviously have no idea about what your talking about saying that EDM is repetitive, when is the last time you listened to any EDM?

    You've just shown how little you actually know about music in general LOL

    Any music you listen to is based around loops, and the repetitiveness of melodies. Especially the vidoe game music that you **arrange** (probably just throw some midi files into a basic synth).

    I find it laughable that you have even tried to make that argument when you clearly know nothing about how music is actually made and that you actually call yourself a producer...another LOL moment.
     
  6. alecjahn

    alecjahn Site Soldier

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    I find it laughable that you're defending your own music and making an argument about it. Vosse has his opinion, there's plenty of others just like him. He said he liked it, and if he doesn't, big deal.

    There's a difference between literal looping and progression, detail. Expression>repitition.

    That being said, I don't listen to many VGremixes because not only is most of it just... unnecessary (in that I much prefer direct tracks, especially from the era when music was synthesized in the machine as opposed to played back from a disc), but it seems a lot of people take the same elements of the original song and tweak them a little bit (or change the genre or whatever) instead of actually inputting their own heart into the track. I feel the same way about covers, especially when someone covers a song and just does it completely verbatim in regards to the original.


    I've got a few old myspace things, but haven't made one for any recent stuff. a few tracks are on youtube.
    Prepare for a possible snoozefest, depending on your own personal tastes. All my later work has been studies in getting as much sound out as little sound as possible, edging on minimalism and working out from there.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoOpZD7DSI4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rAH4c7paCM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbS587q118Y
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKN6or-3eIQ
    I'm not a fan of software, I feel not having limits keeps you from true creativity. So I try to use my synths and guitars and my voice as much as I can unless I just can't get the sound I'm looking for. Plus, there's nothing like physically creating music (or any art for that matter) instead of just moving a mouse around... I feel like it's similar to trying to read a book through a computer screen instead of holding it in your hands.


    Then there's one of my bands (the one that is electronic)
    http://www.myspace.com/thefalloftheempire
    For live work, I play synth and bass guitar and run loop pedals. My partner in crime plays drums, runs the sampler, and plays guitar.
     
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  7. K-Panggg

    K-Panggg Familiar Face

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    Dude, if you're really serious about making your own music then you should set up a PODCAST and some web 2.0 shit.

    I am studying that very same thing for my post graduate Marketing thesis, which is going to be based upon web 2.0 strategies, and let me tell you, many musicians ended up scoring some good deals with producers just by advertising their music through well placed podcasts.

    Just letting you know.

    If you need some bibliography, I'll send you a PM with a link to a list of articles I found very interesting.
     
  8. alecjahn

    alecjahn Site Soldier

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    My concern with trying to get noticed is becoming one of those guys that is trying to get noticed. Makes me feel awkward.

    Though, the idea of a podcast is interesting. I'm in one for a local art publication/collective, but I certainly don't know the logistics of distribution in that medium.
     
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  9. oli_lar

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    alecjahn, looks like you are a man after my own heart. Due to lack of money though I only generally have one hardware synth at a time though. Currently have a Yamaha SY-22 thats great for sweeping leads etc. Am in the process of selling my PC Engine collection to fund the purchase of a modular synth set up, thinking of Doepfer modules. Will likely be using it for basslines. Only other hardware I have is a Behringer mixer and a Zoom 1204 effects unit. Looking forward to when I get a job that allows me to get some decent equipment and a dedicated pc, If that ever happens haha.

    Software wise I use Reason for the meat and FL Studio for experimenting and quick ideas. Rhythm (psp homebrew daw) is great for the latter too, its amazing what they've been able to prgram into that.

    I don't have a particular style I do, certainly nothing I'd put up either as its mostly crap :lol: Mainly doing ambient kind of hip hop stuff. Still finding my 'style' though that seems to change often! Mostly I prefer the process rather than completing tracks tbh!

    Wouldn't agree with Vosse saying all electronic music is repetitive and boring. As with any genre of music you have to mine deep to find good stuff.
     
  10. babu

    babu Mamihlapinatapai

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    trying to produce stuff but never really made anything longer then a minute.. don't know why, kind of loose interest or something. ;)
    also feel that I lack somewhat in my music knowledge.. so have been doing some reading up on the theories in my spare time.

    I try to go purely hw. My current setup is:
    Alesis Micron synth
    Nord Modular synth
    EMU E6400 ultra sampler
    some effect unit
    Yamaha RM1X drummachine
    Yamaha QY700 sequencer

    I guess I'm going for some kind of electronic stuff, been trying to find my "style" been going a bit dnb, idm, ebm, house ... currently in some acid phase :)

    also been wanting to get a doepfer setup
     
  11. Amuseum

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    mmh, afraid of your own talent much ?
     
  12. ServiceGames

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    Way to be a douche C-Rocks..
     
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  14. alecjahn

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    I don't think it's very attractive for a musician to be putting their material under the noses of record companies.

    This is awesome. Maybe add a pinch of technical variation, in things like the background/polyrhythms?
     
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  15. oli_lar

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    Have you looked into it much or is it just a bit of a pipe dream? I'm worried on my limited planned budget (~£600) I'm only going to be able to afford only a case, oscillator, filter, envelope, lfo and a cv-midi converter is going to be essential and thus it'll take the addition of a fair few modules more until I can get sounds that are worth the set up cost - just hope I don't loose faith in it or get really skint! Good thing is you can spend £100 here and there for another module.

    Do you know which emu samplers are compatible with the Emu E-5000 ultra's file format? I picked up a rackmount scsi case with cdr/2xhdd (for literally a couple of pounds!) that apparently has a bunch of samples left on, but e5000s seem considerably more expensive that many of Emu's other models.
     
  16. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    ?

    I am sorry, I am not sure whether that was a genuine or jokey comment, but if it was genuine then dude you need to stop being so prissy. Whatever way you can put your material under the noses of a record label, do it. Persistence, determination and being pushy (to a degree, not stalking the fuckers) pays off!

    If however you simply sit back and wait for someone to discover you, then you'll be a long time dead before someone finally stumbles across your stuff.
     
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  17. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    "Resistor Demo V3" is the strongest track by far. I really liked the intro. The opening track "Object" is a complete non-starter, push it to the bottom of the list. I may sound critical, but hey, I have plowed through thousands of demos & promotional CDs.

    The distorted drum/bass sound is overly used in other tracks and in fact by thousands and thousands of people. It's just a stock bump, bump, bump and annoying. Resistor actually demonstrates that you have a good sense of melody and frankly any label would be looking for something interesting, so don't follow the herd, do it your way.

    I agree with Alecjahn in that you need to insert elements of variation. Some hook to draw you in. Thump, thump, thump is tiring and goes nowhere.

    It's also a sad fact that the majority of those working in this field will listen to the first few seconds of your first track and make up their minds almost instantly, so if you are going to push yourself. A) put your strongest and most interesting track first and B) don't have a HUGE long build up on it.

    The number of bands that seem to put their tracks in chronological order or as they would want them to appear on their first EP or album is amazing.

    C) If you only have a couple of strong tracks but want to appear more prolific, don't pad it out with weaker material. The weaker stuff will let you down. Just have the 2 strong tracks on any demo.

    :thumbsup:
     
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  18. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    For what it's worth Chris I personally think it's a good track with potential. It's not something I would rush out and purchase, but actually if you really listen to it (which Vosse clearly didn't) there are a number of elements that you've drawn into mix.

    What I do agree with regarding Vosse is that the track needs to lead you somewhere. It just needs an extra "something", which at present it seems to be missing.

    3:48 is how I would start the tune, no beat build up, just straight in and inject more melody.

    The fact that you've already released a track and had interest from an independent label in my opinion shows you have a passion for music.

    People are allowed their opinions however I strongly disagree. You cannot listen to one track and make up your mind about a particular person and their musical abilities.
     
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    Such a very amazing link!

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