my eBay purchased 20 pin saturn...MY GOD

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  1. jjona5

    jjona5 Spirited Member

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    So this thing was so full of dead roaches random bug pieces and stains. It is getting the standard dirty arcade monitor chassis and board treatment. A trip through the dishwasher and then its going in the oven on super low for about an hour. I should have taken pictures before hand but it was depressing. Poor sega.
     
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    was this disclosed when you bought the item? or did it simply say "as is" ?
     
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    As is. he said it didnt read disks. I got it to read one disk but after tweaking the pot pretty hard. It seems to work fine other than that. It is all cleaned up now. Toothbrush, dawn, trip through the dishwasher and she looks pretty good again.
     
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    what's that for?
     
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    So its not wet after being in the dishwasher?
     
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    Yeah I put my oven on 170 let it reach temp then throw the boards in and turn the oven off. I've been doing it for years and its never let me down.
     
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    Do you wash the boards as well in the dishwasher? Or just the shell?
     
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    The boards as well, why else would they be in the oven to be dried if they weren't wet?
     
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    o_O

    i've never heard of washing electronic components on a dishwasher before. I saw some videos on how plastics came out of it, though I prefer to do it on the sink. I've seen pcb on an isopropyl alcohol bath. and being on an oven for reflowing, not drying. apparently it's not only a common but also a relatively safe thing. my logic was if common alcool contains too much water and residues, what to think of tap water plus detergents? lol

    I'll give it a go on a couple of really flux gooey famiclones I have. :D

    http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=219336
    http://www.electronicspoint.com/threads/cleaning-pcbs-dishwasher-rinse.20092/

    do you rinse it with isopropyl? if so, that's before or after the drying (whatever is your favourite method)?
     
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    What are the benefits of running it through the dishwasher?
     
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    Personally I wash my arcade PCBs with dish soap, a toothbrush and warm water, drying them under the sun.They come out as new :)

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    Water based cleaning has been standard for most electronics production for about 10 years - it was in use before that, but only in certain applications, and lots of companies were still using solvent based cleaning processes.

    Admittedly, these systems use deionized water for the final rinse step - they also use special detergents that are designed to minimize foaming - but you can clean even boards using fine-pitch BGAs with water safely.
     
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    Tektronix even washed their osciloscopes with water and detergent, it always came clean from the repair shop :)
     
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    I use the garden hose. lol
     
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    Just make sure you don't do this to the input attenuator assemblies. They really don't like it...
     
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    Tek serviceman did it, but I don't know how. The only photo I have is B&W and very old. I believe there are some areas that should be protected, but I have not that much info beyond this photo and a single article :(
     
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    All I know is I've never had a problem. I always remove all batteries and make sure it is completely dry before powering back up. I do this before all chassis cap kits and all of my wiring harnesses in cabinets before a restore.

    On the original subject. The saturn works fantastic with the sd card reader setup. I'm loving the load times.
     
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