Need help for a prototype XeDK

Discussion in 'Xbox 360 Development' started by gururu, Sep 9, 2009.

  1. null2

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    Personally, i disagree on the rarity comment. I've seen plently of beta kits sold. Can you point me to more than one sale of a Jasper kit anywhere on assembler/x-s/ebay/etc? Xenon sold one, anyone else?
     
  2. null2

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    I worded my last post poorly. What I meant to say was

    Can you point me to more than one sale of a prototype Jasper kit.
     
  3. oldengineer

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    As previously stated 1839 is a good version for your fairly late build Beta 2 kit.

    ...I run a Beta 1 kit, which uses 1640, just make sure you recover > than 1640 and no < than 1839 and all should be good :)
     
  4. gururu

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    Thanks oldengineer, that was helpful. If I recovered this kit with the proper 1xxx version, can I run unsigned game on it? I mean just like other Dev kit or Demo kit. Thanks.
     
  5. gururu

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    I just realized this kit's front panel were diffrent from retail one. Need some mod to fit a pretty panel :(
     
  6. tmbinc

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    There is no "unsigned" code (hacks aside). Binaries are either signed for development, or signed for retail. The development private key is part of the SDK, so you can sign whatever you want for "development".

    That said, the Beta-2 hardware is different enough to not run any games. It can be used for (limited) development, though.

    oldenginner: A *beta-1* kit? Sure it's not just an old beta-2 kit? What board rev. does it have? (Beta-1 would be 002 or 004, beta-2 would be 005, 007, prototype-final would be 008/009, final is 011)
     
  7. oldengineer

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    Extract from 1640 readme, which states transition from Alpha to Beta...
    3.1 Do Not Use June 2005 Recovery with Alpha Xbox 360 Development Consoles

    The June 2005 XDK supports only beta Xbox 360 development consoles. If you attempt to run recovery from the June 2005 XDK on alpha Xbox 360 development consoles, the alpha development console will be left in an indeterminate state and may not function correctly. To recover from this situation, you must use an ISO recovery CD from the May 2005 XDK.
     
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  8. LEo

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    Does anyone even have an alpha kit? I'm not sure if you guys are talking about a console or the modified G5's.
     
  9. tmbinc

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    I call them:

    "Alpha": Modified G5
    "Beta-1": Board rev. 002 or 004 ("very old cpu", up to, i think, 1640)
    "Beta-2": Board rev. 005 or 007 ("old cpu", up to 1839)
    "Prototype": Board rev 008,009 ("final cpu" but old board, up to 4xxx or so)
    "Final": Board rev 011

    I would be very interested in seeing a working beta-1 board, especially since I believe they were never used outside Microsoft.

    (of course Zephyr+ boards have a different board rev., so please don't mix them with the xenon board revisions)
     
  10. Kishan

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    I just dont get it. Why would MS usr APPLES Hardware. Couldnt they have integrated a IBM into a custom mobo and how the hell do you get the xenon launcher to boot on a G5. if they can do it on a mac couldnt we get it to boot on a pc since the OS is a modified version of windows or could that have been xbox 1
     
  11. LEo

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    :Facepalm:

    PPC=/=x86

    My guess is that it was cheaper for them to modify the G5's but really we don't know alot about these machines, has anyone seen one outside of MS in a collection.
     
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  12. Kishan

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    I believe gamerfreak owns a alpa kit. Very rare. Does anyone know why they were destroyed when the betas were released
     
  13. LEo

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    He owns an Xbox 1 Alpha kit.
     
  14. Kishan

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    Oh and it called m$ for a reason. I dont think finances would have been a big concern
     
  15. babu

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    I saw one once when doing some freelance work for a company, it was put away in their storage room. As the company later got bought up I'm guessing that the hardware is probably back at MS by now.
     
  16. Krypton_VII

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    I've gotten 009's up to 9328..
     
  17. Krypton_VII

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    Ugh.. Disability to edit..

    I'd like to add Beta2 kits can get to 4929..

    And Beta1's can get past 16XX, but not 1888 if I remember correctly, haven't seen one in a while..
     
  18. tmbinc

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    Let's just stick to the board revision, there is too much confusion around here.

    002/004 can't go past 16xx. They are very different (in terms of CPU), and you would be *really* lucky to see such a system running. I think they even have a different power plug, or something.
    005/007 can go to 1839, but definitely not further.
    008/009/011 start at 1838, and can technically go to the most current kernel. However, an "artificial" limitation was put in place so that 008/009 can't go past a certain revision.
     
  19. Krypton_VII

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    Maybe in most cases.. But I've had a 009 that was started on 6XXX(not 1XXX) out of the box.

    Funny huh..
     
  20. Dark Neo

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    Yeah that´s right, BUT when you have bought this Kit? ;) MS flash the newest Kernel by manufacturing on the Box.
     
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