I tried searching but it seems that the search function ignores anything under 4 letters long so works like "SNK NEO GEO AES" yielded no results. So forgive me if I ask any questions that are answered in other threads. So I recently bought an AES that hasn't arrived in the mail yet. I was looking at games and WHOAH are they expensive. One of the games i was really looking forward to was SVC Chaos whitch I found HERE for considerably less than the going rate on ebay. but while i was on the site i also found THIS. Which lets you use MVS carts on your AES. I figured that the price wouldn't be that bad if MVS games cost less, but they don't seem to be any cheaper. I guess my questions are. Where is a good place to find AES carts and accessories? Are there some online shops that have a steady inventory? Ive seen Neo Geo carts that say 101 in 1 and the like in the past but i am unable to find any. Are these kinds of carts rare, illegal, hard to get? Is there any kind of region lockout on the U.S. Neo Geo? Am I able to use any AES cart from any region? Anything I should know as a new AES owner?
There's no region lockout on AES or MVS. The mutlicarts are bootleg, and generally MVS carts so you'd still need an MVS-to-AES adapter to play them on your AES. They can be a great deal however if you just want to play the games and don't want to collect the individual boxes and all that. MVS carts are generally cheaper than AES carts, often times significantly so.
For the cost of a Super MVS Converter you may as well build a consolized MVS system. Yeah, AES games are expensive in comparison to other consoles from the same era, but that's common knowledge to be fair. There's a lot of games that are now very reasonably priced, especially the Japanese versions, but these tend to be the older releases. If you're wanting some of the better games on the system then you're going to have to spend a decent amount of cash. If the price of SvC Chaos scares you you're probably never going to be playing awesome games like Last Blade 2, Garou: MotW, Pulstar, Viewpoint etc. Overall, the prices of both MVS and AES games on eBay seem to be getting quite ridiculous lately. Especially when people are spending stupid amounts on MVS-AES conversions.... :dammit:
you guys seems to know a lot about Neo Geo stuff. Know where a good site with decent inventory is? or am i stuck with ebay?
I don't know of any good sites with a decent selection. I've mostly used eBay to pickup common things, and on occasion stuff pops up on CragsList. Like I said though, if you just want to play the games, a MVS to AES adapter and a multicart like this is probably the easiest and best bang for the buck.
well. before i shell out $400 on a cart and converter i would like to know if it will work. I found THIS that says.... which scares me a little. It seems the only multi carts i can find are the 161 and the 138. i found a lot of literature saying that the 138 will not work on the aes. but i cant find anything stating that the 161 is tested or not. If someone knows for a fact that this 161 will work with the aes adapter then i'll buy it right now. but im not willing to take the risk right now. but yeah. if anyone has tried that setup and it works then im sold.
A note about the Super MVS Converter... The device seems to be picky about what kind of power supply you have. There were a lot of Neo Geo motherboard revisions and some AES consoles came with a different power supply. In the worst case you need to shell out some cash for a power supply too. Also, the Super MVS Converter has a scaling problem. Games like Real Bout Fatal Fury II have messed up sprites when there is any scaling present. Last Blade and other full screen scaling titles have the most issues.
NeoGeo is expensive if you are going the AES route. It's still not cheap even if you go the MVS route. You have the cheapest route if you can run a MVS board with your own cobbled together Supergun and buy one of the multicarts for around 100 bucks. But the cost of the NeoGeo MVS board and Supergun components you are looking to probably spend atleast 200 bucks, probably more if you don't have a 15khz RGB monitor. Alternatively, while maybe not as cool but assuming you have an HDTV, you could buy a Mini PC and emulate NeoGeo. The reason I suggest this is HDTVs have VGA ports, and you're already considering MultiCart bootlegs so it doesn't seem that collecting is a high priority. Unless you must be using the original hardware, you are much better building a small PC to use as a console. Another benefit is you could play MAME emulated Arcade games as well as Capcom CPS1, 2, and 3 games. You could even buy a X-Arcade Dual Joystick setup to have real arcade controls. I just picked up one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400169609871&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT It's really small, no bigger than a PS2 (original) console. It is more than powerful enough to run FinalBurnAlpha which will cover the mentioned systems and you can also use MAME so long as you aren't trying to play things you need a beast to play like Cruis'n USA or something. I would advise you to consider carefully just what you are looking for and see all your options.
If you're just going to emulate you may as well just mod an original Xbox. Most emu's have had an HD update and Neo, CPS 1 & 2 titles run flawlessly, as do some PGM titles. There's even a CPS 3 emu that runs pretty smoothly.
Yes but the original Xbox has an old 733mhz Coppermine x86 CPU with 64MB of RAM. You can do alot better than that without spending much. Unless you can get a modded Xbox for cheaper than that, I think you are better off with a small PC.
$200 for the mini PC, $20 for a RAM upgrade, $50+ on a HDD and however much for your OS, plus shipping costs works out at a minimum $300, that's considerably more than a modded Xbox and brings it back to somewhere near the cost of a SuperGun with a BlueElf or Happy Fish 2 board. The permutations are endless, it all depends on how much the OP minds having wires etc trailing across the floor.
I have a mame cab. expertly built. it works flawlessly and i love it. its sitting in my living room right now. but something about hard copies of stuff. my HD could die out on me any moment. but actual carts are forever. I am not opposed to pirating. but a collector isnt going to build their collection off of downloaded roms. its fun to play and its hard to tell the difference from the real deal, but i feel if i got a 100 in 1 carts and aes/mvs converter then i wouldnt have a good start on my collection. i would still buy games for the aes, but only as they came by. i wouldnt feel the need to hunt games down and pay too much for them. i guess. I have a modded gamecube and can easily burn games, but that doesnt stop me from picking up GC games when i come across a good deal. i dunno. maybe im doing it all wrong.
I kind of doubt you will ever see "good deals" on NeoGeo AES titles. MVS more likely. Ofcourse if you get a converter then you've got that. About the HDD going out and carts are forever, this is nonsense. The carts could be damaged. The EPROMs (NeoGeo carts are not all necessarily MaskROM chips, some are eproms) may suffer bit rot. If your PC HDD dies, get a new one. You lost the romset? That's awful, only millions of other people have it and put it online for you to get again. Now it certainly is cool to collect the real carts. But remember it is going to be expensive! If that's what you want, go for it. About that particular mini pc. You don't need the ram upgrade, 1GB is enough for NeoGeo and CPS1 - 3. The HDD, you can get your own 2.5" SATA HDD even cheaper. So it's less than $300. And again, sure you could get a Supergun but the cost of getting all the boards is going to be costly. And it's more of a hassle to change games. I've done it, it's a pain. I'd only want the real arcade boards for games that are absolutely above all else in my opinion. I wouldn't collect them casually cause I don't have the space or money for that. Bomberhead, all I'm saying is to think it out what exactly you are wanting to do. i was just giving some alternative ideas.
As above, I was just trying to throw some ideas into the mix, that's why I mentioned the BlueElf and Happy Fish 2 options as these all-in-one ROM boards have Neo and CPS 1, 2 and 3 games on them. Bomberhead, you mentioned you've got a dedicated M.A.M.E cab, actual carts aren't going to run any better than your ROMs. In fact, even though there's a 'fine tune' option on the Super MVS Converter 2 you'll still get some graphical glitches with Capcom vs SNK, Garou: M.O.T.W plus one or two others. It's nothing massive or major but it's still there, it's one of those rare cases where emulation is better than actual hardware/software. Also as far as choosing which of the multi carts to go for, even though they say they've got up to 161 games on them you'll find at least 25-30% if not more are just hacks of the KOF, Metal Slug, Sam Spirits and Fatal Fury games. At some point in the not so distant future I reckon some wily Thai or Chinese pirate will manage to fit a full ROMset on one of these carts or at least increase the title count and reduce the 'bloat'. Until then personally I'd stick with the M.A.M.E cab.
The 150-in-1 is missing 59 games as I recall. So it's not like it is too terribly far off from containing every game. It would be sweet to have one cart with every game. And preferably with no hacked versions or atleast an option to hide those versions in the menu.
so i got Sengoku , Samurai Spirits, Samurai Spirits 3, KOF Special, and KotM 2. Ive got Magician Lord on the way. One thing i noticed though was that it wont display any video on my LCD but you can still hear the audio. It works just fine on my CRT though. Anyone know why?
The Neo Geo's sync signal is slightly out of the range most LCDs can deal with. The internal scalers in modern tellys usually have problems with a 240p signal too, as they either see it as 480i or haven't a clue what's going on. How are you connecting it to the LCD, and what make is it?
For the best results your NeoGeo should be played on a CRT TV or RGB monitor with the best video signal you can get out of it. That's another point for why emulation can be nicer although emulation can have other issues too.
Composite cables connected to a 42" Philips (A cheapy, i know) from what i understand, the only way i can get s-video or any other output is to mod the system. is there some kind of adapter that would take the Composite video signal and convert it to something my TV can use? like s-video? I know that it wont make it look any better but it will at least work.
Composite video isn't why the TV isn't syncing. You need something between the TV and the AES to adjust the signal to maybe get it to sync with it. In short you should get your AES modded to output S-Video (or Component) and get a fix for syncing with your TV.
