Next gen console game prices .. the $20 bump

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  1. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    I'm looking at Japanese release prices for 360 games.. Holy shit, almost $65usd.
    That means imports are gonna be about $75-80 from importers. Insanity.

    This reminds me of the 1990's and the era of the $110 Superfamicom cart.
    (just go check some retail prices for the DSP games like Vorg.)

    Not for nothing, but if games cost that much, you can bet your ass people are going to start looking to bootleg from day one.

    Parents are really going to look for cheaper software, hell , if they bundle the gamecube with 3-4 games this christmas for $100, 360 is fucked, plain and simple.
    And you can bet your ass sony is going to do something crazy at 360 launch, like cut the pstwo to $99 or something similar with a free game.

    I don't know about you, but I wait for $50 games to hit $19.99 at the local retail shops.

    If I buy ten games in a year, that's $700 plus 6% tax.
    I bought about 100 games last year, all on discount, and that's still $2000.
     
  2. socialdrone

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    i dont know what microsoft is thinking...300-400$ for the xbox, 60$ a game, xbox live, and broadband connection....tac on all that hidden pay per play crap and thats a lot of money.
     
  3. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Like I always say, why do people in the US want stuff for next to nothing all the time? UK Prices are around 70 USD and up. Games in Japan are 51 USD to 60 USD. So when you look at it you are still getting stuff cheaper than the UK gamers.

    Yakumo
     
  4. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    Well you have to think exchange rate really, the thing is that its priced that way in europe based on the fact thats what that currency is worth, ask if its 50 here it will be 50 pounds in the uk, thats just how it is. Still its funny, i remmber when 64 came out games were not cheap at all, on average it was $70-80, in fact i think i remember an add showing mortal kombat trilogy upon release cositng about $95, i only can imagine what the import prices were(guessing 120) however the price dropped durring its mid life span to about $60 on average. Im guessing if any of the next gen systems becomes very well established the prices will go down, maybe not for ps3, but definetly 360 and revo.
     
  5. Kittyhawk

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    It's already starting. Nintendo is offering a Smash Bros. bundle and a Pokemon XD bundle for the low, low cost of $99.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Sony lowered the PS2 price. That'd be a nice thorn.

    Microsoft, for some odd reason, is bundling Forza with the first Xbox, FOR $30 MORE THAN THE BASE UNIT ($179)!! What the hell?! I'm not sure why they're doing this. Nobody asks for Forza anymore at the store, and there's nothing different about the Xbox (unlike the Halo edition).

    As for the 360 game prices, compared to prices of yesteryear, they're not so bad. That doesn't mean I like them. Carts cost a hell of a lot more to make than DVDs, so why should they be more expensive? It's the software companies pressuring MS to raise the price to make up for the cost of development for the 360. But still, it's a scam. ^_^;;
     
  6. XerdoPwerko

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    I don't see the price hike as something fair.

    They will have to bring the prices down to a decent level. I'm sure they will, after the new-console hype wears off.
    I mean, hell, games are expensive as it is. It's not like they're making them on an expensive format or anything. Sure, they cost a lot more to make these days, but I still find this exaggerated. It will change. Otherwise it'll be a very short generation.
     
  7. Kotodama

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    Meh, if prices go up. I imagine more people are going to wait until they go down or buy used or some combination of the two.

    However, I do think it may be in developers best interests to actually lower prices in order to capture a larger market. Ha, though I don't think that will happen at all, greedy bastards.
     
  8. Blur2040

    Blur2040 Game Genie

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    70$ games will be just another reason for people to take a trip down memory lane with their games. Why spend 70 bucks on an XBox 360 game when you can spend 70 and get an NES with a huge stack o' classics?

    Well, that might not happen...but expensive games will turn some cutsomers to the competition...Microsoft will eventually wise up. They won't let their competitors sell their games for 10-20 dollars less than them, and I don't think Nintendo would put their prices that high. The prices will come down.
     
  9. ASSEMbler

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    $70 for a game or $70 for a mods chip, I wonder what most people wil choose.
     
  10. Warakia

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    I for one am not excited enough to part with the extra cash (got burned with a brand new Jap ps2 and all launch games at about 60 pounds each) I can afford to wait till those priced chill out, they are just cashing in on the vast number of american pre-orders and the games people are gonna have to buy.

    I will pick up that nice Dead or Alive 4 controller (that will dissapear fast - I reckon) Oh and DOA4 with the eventual pre-order stuff. But I'm not excited enough to actually buy a 360 at the Jap launch.

    I doubt that these silly prices are actually going to hurt the launch. However it is going to put casual people off in the aftermath, before the prices become sensible.
     
  11. bigsexyolli

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    Those prices are insane! Like assembler predicted, Nintendo and Sony might cool up with some cheap bundles. I'd be in for that for sure, rather then buying a 360
     
  12. WolverineDK

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    Perhaps modchips ?
     
  13. cahaz

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    That's where the revo could make it's way back under the followspot. I'm not saying this because, as you know, my favorite next-gen console is the revo (for now, anyway), but because of facts.

    Ps3 games will us the BD-Rom Media, Wich is very expensive without anything on it, And the Production cost will be way higher too, because the system is more complex (cell, anyone?) and also because you more polygons, more effects, and more detailed textures means more work. Same on the xbox 360, but toned down a bit, 'cause it uses HDDVDs and and is a bit less complex.

    Piracy won't be as spread as it is right now, no mather if the price for a game is higher or not, since HDDVDs and BDROMs aren't widely used medias, like DVDs Are. And i'm pretty sure you'll see tons of firmware updates on both machines, like on the psp, to stop piracy, with the same methods used on psp (Downloadable upgrade, or On game update, wich will be required to play new softwares.)

    On the other hand, The revolution still use DVDs And Dual Layered DVDs, wich are cheaper than HDDVDs and BDroms, The system use A Single core Cpu, wich is way more simple to develop for than multiple core consoles, And the graphics standards certainly won't be as high as on the other consoles.

    Games on the Revo will certainly cost as much as games of this generation.
     
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  14. Fabrizo

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    Not all of them will, in fact I doubt we'll be seeing games using Blue Ray discs for a while, as developers will purposfully avoid using them to cut down on production cost.

    Nope, the XBox 360 uses normal dvd's, not HD-Dvd's.

    See the above.

    Has this been confirmed?
     
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  15. babu

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    To quote Fabrizo " Has this been confirmed?"


    I also looked up the prices for xbxox360 games in sweden seems like they most is around 76$ (except Pefect Dark Zero and some other - 82$ O_O)

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    I think I just found the most expensive: Pefect Dark Zero - Black Edition - 94$... ok this is a "special edition"-box, but still.. you can get a new gamecube for around that price
     
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  16. cahaz

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    I understand for the cpu, this wasn't confirmed yet, indeed. But the DVD and Dual Layer DVD thing have been confirmed.

    i'm pretty sure it will use both. i think i saw this on IGN, among other places. Anyone heard the same thing?
     
  17. SuperGrafx

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    Dunno. Cheap mentality, I guess.
    Personally, the prices are higher but who cares? We paid $60+ a game back in the SNES and N64 days, so this is really nothing that new.
     
  18. cahaz

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    alot of gamers weren't gamers in these days. And since the market is controlled by casual gamers right now... it might give a big hit on the industry.
     
  19. Evangelion-01

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    cahaz... it doesnt have HD-DVD....
     
  20. XerdoPwerko

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    I personally haven't felt like I've been getting the same benefit from my 50 dollars that I used to get for the 1994 equivalent, back in the SNES era. Some games are definitely worth paying the 50 dollar asking price, but most are worth 20 dollars at most.
    Hell, some PSX games I've bought bootlegged, and I feel I wasted my 10 pesos. I mean, I could have bought a 2600 cart at the black market for 5 to 25 pesos, and stuff. The value of games has changed. It's harder to surprise audiences now, and even more if the production values are centered in the audiovisual department more than the actual experience of playing - which is what generates the actual significance of the interaction with the machine. It's one thing to see and hear something cool, and a whole other to be offered a new experience with mechanics that keep you interested and some depth or benefit of sorts, beyond the audiovisual. The audiovisual should be a means to that end, not the end itself.

    I guess it's relative. Games, many of them anyway, back in the 90s felt like something that would offer some new experience for you. Most of the time this was true. It's less likely with today's games (harder to imagine stuff when the emphasis on realism pretty much takes care of any imaginative setting) - but there are still some quality releases that bring something new to the table.

    But I sure as hell will not be paying 70 dollars (that's TWO WEEKS SALARY, god damn it!) for tripe with moderately "prettier" graphics. Technical innovation and innovation in the experience of a medium are completely different, and if the first is given priority, videogames lose their reason to be, other than "hipster" status symbols and audiovisual products that continue to perpetuate consumerism. That's instead of being a medium of innovation in the creation of significance.
     
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