Nintendo 1990 World Championship Cart For $0.50

Well duh, its a competition cartridge. I'd play it to master the points originally held by the NWC contestants :thumbsup:

 

Just to chime in with my 2 cents:

If everyone who owned an NWC cart just kept it for themselves, and, as mentioned earlier, bit-rot set in and all carts were rendered unplayable after (let's say) 30 years - then where would that leave everyone?

Dumping is important for preservation, fact.

If we really follow this to its logical conclusion - give it 100+ years and almost all the games we have played/play now will simply disappear. All that will remain are the 'classics' that get spewed out repeatedly on retro compilations from companies like Sega/Nintendo/etc... It's a pretty sad thought.



But that's just my opinion.

 

I approve of this communist approach, but capitalist corporations go by "if we can't sell it to you, you better not have it". They'd rather destroy stock than give it away, fact.

 

If people actually played the thing it might be. I think the pool of people that want to play every Odyssey 1 game is very limited. You play the few that you have when you get it and it goes in the closet.

 

How is a baseball hit by babe ruth for a home run then not just a baseball?

NWC has many things going for it. One of those things id the history of the event which was a highlight to many that age that participated or watched or even those who just saw the movie the Wizard and dreamed of being there.

 

good thing I saw the Wizard in 2009 for the first time. I have no feelings towards this gamepak.

 

Well it is a major bragging rights card these days. Sad or not people are willing to spend big bucks for that alone.

 

Respect of private property is even more important in modern society, fact. Everybody is free to do (pratically) whatever they want with their property.
But that's just my opinion.

 

To be fair, most people who are in possession of betas do not own the IP contained therein. In fact, most don't even have a license to use it. They simply own the physical disc.

If you're going to talk about respecting property rights, then one should respect this fact as well.

Can't have it both ways (respecting physical property rights but ignoring intellectual property rights).

-hl718

 

I don't actually know anyone in person who's into my gaming hobbies/collection etc, so whatever I own just goes unnoticed usually by people, and I avoid posting 'collection pictures' because I just gather stuff that I personally enjoy. I m kinda shy in that respect :redface:

 

Adol - of course you (or anyone else) should have the right to do whatever you want with anything you own...

All I'm saying is that if people don't share something that will eventually rot away - then it will, rather obviously, just disappear and become obselete. On the other hand, I don't think everyone who owns a beta or proto (for example) MUST share it. - All I hope is that they do something to make sure it is preserved in some way. (making a backup for themselves would be the obvious solution)

If code is preserved then it can live on.

Imagine if nobody cracked the capcom cps boards with the battery that expired after 'x' amount of time. (I forget the specifics here so please step into correct me) - If some enterprising folks hadn't attempted to copy/emulate this system and capcom never reissued these games (highly likely) then that would be the end of their cycle - they would be gone forever with no chance of rescuing them. I don't think this is a good thing - even if it IS our right to do what we want with what we own. Ultimately this simply comes across as wrong and selfish, no matter how you look at it.

Sometimes piracy does work for the greater good.

To (mis)quote Mel Brooks' 'Blazing Saddles'...

"Copyright? We don't need no stinkin' copyright!"



The analogy brought up earlier about the Babe Ruth baseball was interesting - but if we apply it to the Neo Geo Kizuna Encounter cart it's not quite the same...

Let's say in 20 years from now that cart is dead - it's rotted and it doesn't work. - If it came up for sale it would be like selling a broken and smashed up Babe Ruth baseball bat... Historical importance may be factor when it comes to valuing it - but I doubt it would be worth a fraction of the price it was worth when it worked. On the other hand, I'm sure that Babe Ruth baseball bat will still be in one piece in 50 years from now.

(or was it a baseball? sorry for the error, but you get my point!)

If anything, this thread has certainly taught me that collecting carts is one heck of a gamble and it IS different to collecting other mediums (as mentioned by others earlier). This is something I never really thought about before. (not that I collect carts, but it does interest me.)

 

And I don't deny the history at all. I was at one of the events myself ! But wether its worth over $10,000 after the ROM been dumped ??? I'm sorry, its just not worth it, imho.

And about the ball hit by Babe Ruth analogy...That had more National significance than say the Nintendo World Championships. Plus it was well documented and confirmed.

 

I think the preservation thing is limited to some very passionate people who aren't thinking about greed.
I can still obtain my favorite Atari 2600 games after 30 years in their original form at reasonable prices. In 100 years -- who's to say what our society will be or even look like if there's one at the rate we're going politically? Afterall, you win some and you lose some. At the same time there will always be hobbiysts who love to collect for the sheer enjoyment of owning their past-time before they leave the planet. Then you can have my valuables because I can't take them with me ^_^

I believe the NWC carts should've maintained their mystique. But the rom been dumped which the gamer only cares about - to actually experience THE GAME . The $10,000 asking price is a circus act. Who's the next moron to pay more than $10,000. C'MON DOWN !!!!!!!


But that's just my opinion.

 

You know, I can't explain it other than to say that the NWC cart is the exception that proves the rule.

For 99.99% of games, betas and SEs out there I'd say that dumping degrades the value of the original. For NWC dumping either has no effect or the demand/desire for the cart is so damn high that the effect is minimal.

I'm one who falls into that camp. I've offered more than once to trade my collection of unreleased prototypes and betas for a single gold NWC cart simply because I desire that cart more than my collection. Obviously others feel the same way about the NWC cart as I have yet to get any serious bites of interest.

Most who get the carts keep them.

-hl718

 

It must've been a really cheesy experience watching "The Wizard" for the first time in 2009 :lol: I still remember the excitement in '89 of catching the first U.S. glimpse of Super Mario Bros. 3 in the film. It was a practical motive for me to actually sit through two screenings of that film - and to obtain those free exclusive "Pocket Power" mini-mags the theatre was giving out :lol:

People like to link the NWC carts to that cheesy film. But in actuality the NWC cart is nowhere to be found in the film but the event being inspired by. The real star of "The Wizard" was Super Mario Bros. 3 :nod:

 

Personally there's nothing really to brag about. The Rom was dumped.
And yes, i'm gonna continue to repeat it. The mystique is gone !

 

Yes,that's what i meant. And you can't take it away.
For that,you'd have to prove they own it.Since you can't enter in their apartmenthome without a warrant,good luck for that.
AND you need the original IP "owner"to make a claim, which is highly unlikely.You can't be more evil than the devil,you know ^^

As long as nobody is introducing a legal action, there is nothing to talk about.

Arnold, we live in a consumerist world. NOBODY pays tons of money for something everybody could have for free.
People wouldn't pay $1 million for a car or a watch if everybody can have it for free...same goes for houses,paintings,etc..The point is a part of the price is beacuse of the materials,etc...but most of the time,for BIG bucks stuff, you should always consider the rarity of the thing AND the fact that the owner will own something than others don't.

About preservation, you should consider that those owners have (maybe) already did the right thing for it, on private servers.

About Kizuna Encounter, well the program is the VERY same than the japanese one you can find for 400-500€,because neo geo system nationality makes the game nationality (all nationalities are "inside" the game)...so basically you're paying $53.5K (let's say $1500 is needed for buying the 2 japanese versions) for 2 stickers,2 inserts and 2 manuals.

Both have been dumped for a very long time now, since finding them on MVS is relatively easy,and very cheap.

Same as people is paying $17K - $5K = $12000 for a color variation of the NWC cart.

 

Do the NWC carts contain EPROMS?

If so a lot can be done to protect the cart itself (vacuum storage or something) and then the EPROM can just be reprogrammed from a dump every couple of years.

Is this possible?

 

Anyone who's prepared to pay $10K for a cart with three already-released games on it isn't paying because they're interested in the games.

C'mon, knock it off. It's a nonsensical argument, and enough people have pointed this out.

 

think of it this way many of the people that buy an NWC live and breath NES. I don't mean they enjoy it. I mean they buy and sell and buy and sell every single day sometimes the majority of the day. Money made swapping games isn't "real money" I've heard them say. They do a few deals make a few bucks and then spend those bucks to obtain the ultimate NES collecting trophy.

Achievement Unlocked: You obtained the NWC cart.