Considering for the price you get good quality hardware that with a bit of care will outlast most other manufacturers by years, world class tech support, a warranty for 3 years if you pay a little extra and a high resale value when you're done with it. The prices aren't that bad. However you strike me as the type who puts your internet forum ethics and opinions before considering a realistically sound option so it doesn't matter. It is of course your choice but you could buy a second hand MacBook and I guarantee it would outlast any of the other options you're looking at. If you're looking at something else, Dell or Lenovo are really the only other way to go. As a family business who repair laptops, something we've done for about 5 years at a rate of 20 laptops a week. Dells and Apples are the only things that seem to survive over long periods.
Again, specific models. I can give you an example of a crap model of all makes of laptop, including Apple. Too many people here like "I have 1 laptop from X and had loads of problems, NEVER BUY A LAPTOP FROM THEM, EVEN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MODEL" Remember the "Deathstar" issue with hdds? Well Hitachi (who still make the deskstar line) have the lowest failure rates in the industry. If you listen to internet crazies, you will miss out on these things.
Not really talking about one model, this over many people I've known who own them. Every product will have faults, but it's a ratio I'm going by.
I worked for a company that sold millions of laptops, HP were no worse than anyone else for laptop jacks for returns. How many laptops are in your reference group? 10? 100? How about this - I have repaired more Dell laptop jacks than any else. Also, most dead laptops I have had are Dell - complete opposite to Twimfy. I am not here telling everyone not to buy a dell because they always break. Its just silly. How about my HP Elitebook 8460p - which I have dropped, my son has pushed off the sofa more times than I can count. But except for a dent on the front has continued to work perfectly the last 3 years. By my reasoning, HP's are therefore completely indestructible and I recommend everyone goes buy them. (sarcasm for those who are rushing to go buy one)
It's a review of my/our own. It's up to the buyer to make the choice and I never said 'not to buy' HP or Toshiba I said they are horrible from others/personal use.
Like I said my toshiba doesn't owe me anything. It's lasted almost 5 years and would still be around if I JUST TURNED WINDOWS UPDATE OFF. But I should have started looking for a new one as soon as the hinge broke. Lenovo does look like a good option too but I need a disc drive too not all laptops now have optical drives for the sake of being ultra light. That's why I'm not looking at Viaos.
But it's behavior led to the panic that led me to do whatever it was that Killed my Laptop. The Motherboard could be fried. The Bios could be corrupted. The Screen and Mother board could have given out at the same time. I just don't know what went down but I DO KNOW that Windows update and it's behavior played a role in my Laptop's downfall.
I dont see how you killed it just by doing updates and formatting. If its dead, you either did something you shouldnt have done (which I find hard to believe without opening it up) or it was going to die anyway.
Whatever man, I'm old-fashioned and I like to control my OS as I see fit. If you have a minimalist setup (or if you still run Windows XP on anything and don't want to run a service that's barely supported anymore) and want to optimize your OS, disabling Windows Update will save you memory and lead to faster boots and shutdowns. If you have memory, power, and time to spare, then by all means adjust Windows Update's download settings as you see fit. I will say that it's become a better service with Windows 7/8. Bad_Ad84: If I happen see an Elitebook in the wild, I am going to test it out now. I want to believe in HP. One of my first computers was a mid-90s Vectra.
How about everybody stops buying piece of chit consumer grade (see also: cheap crap) laptops and then complaining when it is infact, cheap crap. I think when EvilTaco talks about customizing his OS, what he means is "making it as insecure as possible". Guy is sticking with a 13 year old OS for seemingly no real reason and disabling updates at that when they run ONCE a month (patch tuesday) for 10 minutes max. We paid ~£550 for a thinkpad edge for a new user, we then paid approximately ~£130 extra and get 3 years of onsite tech support for it. That's £600 and the specs are on par/better than the MacBook air and we get onsite tech support. Edit: strike that, it's better than the 1.2k macbook air minus the lack of SSD which we could drop in on any given day
I actually hate to break it to you but Bad is right. This doesn't sound like Windows Update killed your computer, more like the hardware in your computer finally decided to give in and take a turn for the worse for both you and possibly your wallet. Unfortunately, this is the way that all hardware is. It will die, but as to when it will die, you will not know unless you throwing your computer through hoops that the hardware just can't fully manage to do. This doesn't go without saying that this is what you did; however, I do not know what your laptop was fully used for and how many times a day you used it for whatever tasks you did on it. I like to compare the hardware of a computer to a car: You might get a new computer much like you would with a car (preowned or not), but every little thing you do counts. Those tasks will slowly add up and start to cause wear and tear on basically every single part of your computer until they can't handle those tasks anymore. It is much like driving a car and accumulating milage until you've reached your limit. Two different things but if you are open-minded a bit, it does make some sense.
I'm a helper of a IT from my school, and pretty sure you don't want to pick up a Dell... We had 13 computers from the lab with problems in the RAM, Power Supply and others, without counting other computers outside the lab.
No no I THINK the series of events that windows update led me to partake in were my computer's downfall. Eitherway I'm going to see if the new Hard drive can be removed checked and then if it's ok, I'm putting that sucker in my PS3. Lord knows with my new JPSN account I'll need the extra space.
You need to list the age and what line those machines come from to substantiate your claim. We have a few Dell machines laying around that have varying issues including Power supply and motherboard. However as soon as I list the year they came around - 2002/3, you can identify they're affected by Capacitor Plague and recognize this is not relevant now.