Official RGB Scart Cables

rayer: :smt043 Best point I've heard in weeks :smt042

BTW, when I use my official DC RGB lead on my TV, I get a buzzing sound out of the speakers when there's lots of bright colours on screen; however, when I use the 3rd party ones that I picked out of the bargain bin for 1e/piece it's gone... goes to show that 3rd party cables can be better.

 

You guys know that even gold doesn't conduct anywhere near as well as silver? Don't buy an assload of 24k gold connectors unless you think they just look cool, because they're probably no better than some crappy silver/tin mix. The reason why everyone uses gold is because they're stupid. I like Sony's official high end cables (D-terminal) because it looks awesome, its worth the $40 for it's appearance alone And what the hell video cable is $90???? The highest quality game Monster cable isn't even that high.

Anyone into Japanese style RGB gaming must know/check out this site:

http://dempa.jp/rgb/index1.html

When I get a job, I'll go on a cable binge there

 

Yup Kyuusaku, but in the AV world, gold is used a lot more. I've never fully understood that one, but finding a silver SCART lead is really rare! I guess the gold is purer than the crappy alloys they use? Or maybe it is better at eliminating crosstalk? The SCART plug design is pretty poor if you think about it!

Anyway, its about the cable - get a decent sized OFC shielded cable - that's why those cables are better!

 

I was talking about the official Sony PS2 SCART cables, but €45 is about US$60 (dunno what kind of dollars Hawanja was talking about). Still a complete rip-off though - not gold or anything.

And for real scary expensiveness, I've seen some ultra high-quality SCART-to-SCART cables for over €120!!

 

I think gold is used on the connectors because of how malleable it is, it won't really crack or chip, just slowly loose particles due to scraping. If people wanted the best videocables, they'd be pure silver in a very thin tube, that'd be like $300 a foot I think. Can't wait for HDMI etc to be released for consoles so it doesn't matter who has the nicest cable s

 

I sometimes make my own cables for consoles and can tell you the only difference between 90% of third party and first party cables is in your head.The wiring and sheilding is nearly always the same and the only difference is the badge they have on them(ie one says nintendo, the other does not).The third party cables for the ps2 tend to be better as they have the option of allowing you to connect to your hi fi or speaker system.

Even the Cube's component cable is not well made and the wire is of shit quality and there is not much of it, but hey it says nintendo on it so it must be better....bullshit.Make an rgb lead out of the componenet cable and you see for yourself.

 

Kyuusaku, I remember top quality audio silver cable going for £300 per foot! Yeowch!

Just think what a multicore for RGB would be!!! :smt009

 

I notice the cube has a component out cable as well as a digital out cable as well as a vga out cable. My only guess is that the digital out cable is for displays with DVI inputs. Anyone know if That is what the digital cable does? I'm not talking about the component or vga but there is a third type, and I'm pretty sure it's not the scart cable used for pal setups, I'll search for a picture.

 

I don't know really anything about GC but I think component is used in the digital out port.

Digital out is for component/RGB(sync must come from composite)/VGA, Multi is for composite/S.

 

Digital out as far as i know is only for component and D-Terminal. The RGB cable goes into the analogue port on pal gamecubes.

 

Umm, is the Digital out not for HDTV? Yeah, that counts as component, too.

 

Hi,

The official Nintendo (PAL) Super NES and Sega Master System/Mega Drive (1) RGB/SCART leads are definitely better than third-party equivalents. Both of those might only have been bundled with French consoles.

The Nintendo lead has components (a couple of transistors, from memory - I have a schematic of it) to properly implement SCART function switching. So your TV automatically switches to the AV/SCART signal when you turn the console on, and back again when you turn it off.

Similarly for the Sega lead. It has a little box in the middle of the lead which contains a circuit board. The box casing reads "ADAPTEUR R.V.B.". It needs more components to generate the 10V-12V function switching signal. (That voltage is available directly on the PAL SNES multi-out port.)

Of, and of course there was the Nintendo RGB/SCART cable for French NES consoles, which had RGB output.

-- M

 

Not that French NESes output GOOD RGB.

 

What? The NES didn't have RGB out! Look at the NES PPU data sheet. It only outputs composite!

As for the components equalling "better quality" and so on, um no. You *CAN* switch without the components. Usually you'll just find its a resistor tieing two of the connectors within the SCART lead. The capacitors, they are ONLY usually for NTSC consoles. See here.

Incidentally, with audio and video signals, the more converting, the more components the signal has to see en route, the worse the picture is. Hence RGB is better than composite, but an RGB mod on a NES won't be. Also, the more components in the way, the worse the signal will get unless that component is necessary (e.g. caps in SCART leads for PAL machines). The BEST quality cables will ALWAYS be the third party ones made with high quality connectors and OFC cable (or better, should one ever come out).

 

The French NES had RGB out, as did the Playchoice and VS systems of course. If you've got some skills, you could easily have a RGB Famicom

 

*mental note: look for used french NES, SNES and Megadrive 2 (for the scart lead) systems next summer in Normandy* :smt045

 

Grr. I wish my country used a TV system incompatible with PAL and NTSC so all consoles had to have RGB SCART cables as standard too...

What is the point in having those cap's on the R, G and B signals? I've had two SCART cables for my PS/PS2 - one of them had them, but the other didn't.

 

I'm pretty sure that the French unit will have the same PPU, hence composite. It may possibly have an RGB converter, hence the piss poor signal. It may also only be a composite SCART lead. Having not seen one, I can't say.

Hmm

 

Found a pic of a French NES with a peritel cable running games

 

Doesn't look too bad. When my next package from Japan arrives, I should have a RGB Famicom Too bad now all I can enjoy it on is a shitty 13" RGB monitor.