OKC cockblocking Firefox users because the CEO donated to prop8

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  1. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    So you're saying that the people behind a product don't matter at all - only the products they make? So if Hitler had made Oreos, would you eat them?
     
  2. CrAzY

    CrAzY SNES4LIFE

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    You don't have to jump to Hitler, y'know? But no, I wouldn't. For one, I don't care for them. Two, I am assuming I would be purchasing them and supporting him financially to do other horrific things, cookie based or not.

    My question to you is, if that CEO was still in power, and I continued using Firefox, would you view me as agreeing with his opinions & supporting him even when I say otherwise?

    & if we use your Hitler example, what if I was a brainwashed German at the time unbeknownst to what he was doing & his outside image was that of an Oreo maker? If I liked Oreo's, then yes, I would buy them & eat them. What about every product you buy? Do you make sure that money isn't going to someone with poisonous views? & how would you even know if they never stated it publicly or were never caught funneling money to something you disagree with? You're over analyzing what I said, IMO. All I know was that was his own money to do with as he pleased, even if I totally am against it.
     
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  3. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    I was just using Hitler to prove a point; I'm not implying that what the Firefox CEO is equivalent to what Hitler did. In regards to what you said about supporting people without knowing what they do; that argument would only make sense if none of us knew anything about this CEO. Since we're having this conversation, obviously we all know what he did. You can't act logically on what you don't know - but you can​ act on what you do know, so why shouldn't you?
     
  4. CrAzY

    CrAzY SNES4LIFE

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    He donated his own money for bullshit. He didn't make a warning page pop up stating that the site I am trying to access has views that he doesn't agree with & that I should use another browser to see it. I have used Firefox for awhile now, and it would be a hassle to start on a whole new browser just because his opinions aren't in line with mine. & if he is somehow profiting off of me using a free web browser, then others at the company with intelligible views must be profiting a bit too. Would someone that worked on Firefox making a generous donation to a good cause get as much press as the CEO of it? No, & it doesn't matter.

    Trust me, I am glad he is out of power because I think anyone with those antiquated views should be in a lower position than that. But if he happened to be a damn good CEO that ran everything amazingly and built Firefox up WHILE also still having those homophobic views outside of his job, I would say let him stay, because he would be doing good for the company in his position. Mozilla isn't some moral authority over lording it's users. It's a browser that is useful to me.

    I want a future where everyone drops all the bullshit (religion, hate, inequality), but I will still accept the good things that come from these people with poisonous minds, & reject the bad. It's called growing. & the more education we get out there, the sooner this dimwits will notice their ways & drop it altogether.

    I do get where you are coming from, but I wouldn't stop driving my Nissan if the current CEO was a racist, bigot, homophobic, pro-slavery nutjob, because in this day and age I know he won't last, just like this Firefox CEO didn't. & I would still service my SUV with Nissan parts, because not only would my cash go to the CEO, it goes to everyone in that business, differing views or not. Just like buying Oreos could go to a worker their that is anti-freedom.
    I am all for pointing out to him that his views are garbage, but stopping all users of something that he is the current CEO of to tell us to use something else is not the way to go about change.

    I wish I could word my views better, but at least we are on the same side internally. Screw this antiquated thinking.
     
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  5. GaijinPunch

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    Every one on the other side of the argument sees it as a throwback to institutionalized racism of the 50's & 60s' in America [or current day Japan...haha]. Seriously though, if some CEO got up and said he was against blacks (or women) voting, what do you think the public would do? What if some jackass CEO did something as retarded as commented that he believed women should stay at home and make babies b/c God gave them a vag. Most of the world would lambast him, and any feminist-related organization would tell all their users to boycott. You can't really vote against any groups basic human rights and not expect to get crucified by someone.
     
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    if they tasted nice probably but then again i've never had an oreo before so maybe they're horrible.

    firefox has been my browser of choice since it's initial early alpha, and will continue to be, as chome is just yicky and i dont like it.

    i dont even know what OKC or prop8 are, nor do i care. many CEOs do many stupid and sometimes down right evil things. but that's no reflection on the people they hire or products their companies make...
     
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    I don't know what's brash about it. Dating site users should be (and probably want to be) well informed about people/products/corporations/whatever that could impede them from expressing their love. OKCupid has a vested interest in this too. The more socially acceptable same sex marriage is, the more likely homosexuals are to find a mate (via OKCupid), right? OKC also got some nice free publicity from this too.

    If there was some influential person who had some hand in passing anti-retro gaming legislation, I would be grateful if Assembler, as the owner of a retro gaming site, posted a pop up here to let me know.
     
  8. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    Protip: Companies are stacked to the rafters with old bureaucratic farts that have mentalities towards sexualities that should have died a painful death a long time ago. Often times you will not know because it doesn't go up like a rag soaked in lighter fuel like this event did.

    Looking forward to hearing all the luddites going off the grid after hearing this "revelation".
     
  9. XxHennersXx

    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    That's a vast over generalization...
     
  10. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Let's see, steve jobs abandoned his daughter to poverty even though he was already a millionaire by the time she was born, and then when forced by a judge to pay alimony he went and said that girl couldn't be his because he's sterile, then like 10 years later he had 3 other kids, I shit you not. That's only one of many awful things he did, do you own an apple product? why?

    And bill gates, of all the evil shit he did I thing the worst by far was when he tried to take paul allen's shares in microsoft while he was bedridden with cancer. Had paul not gone to the office anyway to keep working he wouldn't have overheard that conversation bill was having with ballmer. Are you using windows? why?

    And thats without counting all the awful offensive shit other famous and successful people do while everybody looks the other way: polanski is a pedophile and a rapist, woody allen abused his own children, kobe bryant raped a girl and still kept his contract, sponsors and title of most valuable nba player.

    This guy didn't invent firefox, he was merely another CEO mozilla had, however he made the terrible choice of pissing off a powerful special interest group so now all the work and contributions made by people all over the world to firefox are paying the price.
     
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    "He had to leave the US because else he would've gone to jail, and he can probably never return" = "Everybody looks the other way"?
     
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    So they will have a pop up on their own site that says go to another dating site then? Seems like many of you here would think that is warranted. . . . If your excuse for him is like his that, "he didn't know the person he was supporting had views like that", it's just as good as the excuse that firefox's CEO was either drunk when he made his donation or he was led by Jesus to oppose homosexuality.
    All of them are poor excuses, & Just goes to show that OKC tactics of getting the firefox CEO pulled were BS. Apparently the firefox CEO was irredemable in his support to garbage ideals, but OKC's CEO claims ignorance & expects a slap on the wrist.

    None of this matters, but I just love to point out the hypocrisy.

    Also, Shadowlayer gets it.
     
  15. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    99% of the film industry has looked the other way



    And you have to flee almost any country in the world if you just anally raped a teen girl, but people dont always hate you for that, not if you are famous
     
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    I think you guys don't have the complete story. Not only did OkC wanted the CEO to resign, several programmers quit because they didn't like the views of the CEO.

    =hugh
     
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    looked at the comic strip, served as a reminder of the way things are. (baby boomers = parasites for a MASSIVE loss of life during WWII so they benefited DIRECTLY as a result of empty streets and cheap property...digressing..!) couldn't collapse the image to thumb, sorry! (no bbcode for it here)
    NEVER liked the generation before my time, the suspicion was always there, grateful i wasn't the only one WARY of my elders (jimmy saville anybody?)
    as for the subject, it TRULY enforces the status-quo (NOT endorsed, liked or accepted but, i'm one man, and one man is a NOTHING in this age) and if anything is to change, a MASSIVE altered perspective is required, but how many generations will that take? (and those with conservative values were practically eradicated in past conflict freeing up an inevitable vacuum for a poisonous world order as we know it, our minds are stolen and under control)
    ..
    it's all easy for me to chat shit online but to share this realisation in the real world, be outspoken about it, i KNOW what grief i'd get. not from the establishment but from joe-public themselves! 'so what if he did that horrible thing? he's RICH, he can shoot you in the face, in public and get a standing ovation for it and i WILLFULLY support that' THIS is the mindset of most of us, WE are the fault! time to stand up and be counted!)
    ...
    the image has great red letters that resonates within me, for it's clarity and truth!
    CEO's of ff are peanuts compared to the filth that is today's society in the capitalist arena. US! :(
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    typo
     
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  19. darcagn

    darcagn Site Supporter 2013, Site Supporter 2014

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    The type of website you're describing is Plenty of Fish. Full of fucking idiots. OKCupid has its idiots, but also has a large size of intelligent people too. "Free Online Dating" caters to the socially inept and lonely, not the intellectually void. I work from home which limits my ability to network with people in real life, so I use the site. I've met friends and sexual partners through it. I think of it less as online dating and more of a social networking site geared specifically towards meeting new people. Although yes, most people do use it for online dating.
     
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