OSX on x86?

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  1. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    http://www.osx86project.org/

    It's been like 2 years since Apple announced the eventual switch to x86, now there appears to be some progress. There's even a OSX for x86 leak ;) Has anyone here any experience with this?
     
  2. Tachikoma

    Tachikoma Officer at Arms

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    Old! this was posted a few weeks ago.

    I have the image, and tried it, but my PC has a problem writing to external USB drives for too long, and my Laptop is only USB 1, so it would take about 18 hours to write the image on that.

    I am going to wait until a more useable solution is available, but I am very keen to give it a try.
     
  3. babu

    babu Mamihlapinatapai

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    I was going to try it.. until I realized that AMD athlon cpu's don't have SSE2 (or SSE3) support on their processor >_<
    so I have to wait until my next computer buy (and that will probably take atleast a half year)
     
  4. Paulo

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    I thought this was just standard osx and not a leak?
     
  5. babu

    babu Mamihlapinatapai

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    nope you can find it on torrent sites.. something like "apple os x x86 developer kit" is it named.
    they even released patches for people with none-Mac-PCs (strange one..) so they can run it on their PC.. as long as you got a processor with SSE2 and/or SSE3 support
     
  6. Tachikoma

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    No, it's a leak of the developement build for Intel hardware, it only works with certain hardware, so it's very pot luck, it either works or it doesn't.

    And you have to run it in safe mode, and change the default login password etc etc, it's a lot of work to get working.
     
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    umm ill wait till its nicer/i have a spare hd. I heard it was running faster on pcs then on macs though!
     
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    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    Apple DOES plan on using Intel Chips in their next line of iMacs, however, their OS will still not support native Windows software, as well as the hardware.

    The latest Athlon 64s have SSE3 support.
     
  9. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    ive got it running in VMware, dont feel like getting out another HDD though to try it natively with patches and stuff

    [​IMG]
     
  10. PhreQuencYViii

    PhreQuencYViii Champion of the Forum

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    Thats not Vista is it? Just a skin?
     
  11. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Thats a skin. I had vista installed a bit, but i decided I need the harddrive space lol :)

    I just installed OSX onto another harddrive :) It works :D Pretty cool seeing it boot and stuff
     
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  12. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    One thing I don't get is that I've seen screenshots of people using Photoshop. Wouldn't all third party software need to be compiled for i686/OSX? It's not like there could be seamless support for PPC OSX apps, unless most OSX apps are 100% compiled Java/"Cocoa", which they might all be now, I wouldn't know. Please tell me how this works or if I'm actually buying into some horrible april fools joke. Please also point me to the previous thread where this was brought up, that's what you mean Tachikoma right? I can't find it.
     
  13. the_steadster

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    It was brought up in this thread:
    http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6328&highlight=intel

    If a processor supports SSE3 (newish Athlon64 and intel chips, basically), then a software emulator can be run, known as rosetta. However, it can only translate G3 instructions, not G4 or 5, so most software will fall back to a G3 mode when run through rosetta, so it is not a great emulator for performance. More info on wikipedia:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(software)

    If the processor does not support SSE3, but does support SSE2 (all Athlon64s and P4s), then only native apps can be run, of which there aren't too many, however I do know that there is a firefox port and a list of other software here
    http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/X86_software
     
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    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    I see, I saw no mention of it being partially software emulated. That clears everything up, thanks!
     
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