Other PSX Clone.

Another PSX clone DevilRedeemed posted thsi Mexican one up at NG.com

http://www.deremate.com.mx/accdb/ViewItem.asp?Data=7408077|4785

 

I'll call BS. It's actually a clone of the Asahi VCD Famiclone as seen on Hawanja's site: http://hawanja.com/ashi_vcd.htm

The day a real Mexican bootleg Playstation is released, the universe will implode.

 

Not a mexican machine, of course. Chinese, most likely.

This mexican site really sucks ass, though many sellers are quite honest.

I have an account. ¿Want me to ask the seller a few questions and see what gives?

 

That's pretty interesting, also, they mention PS compatibility several times quite unlike other clones that just look like a PS/N64 and have screenshots of 32-bit games printed on the boxes but are actually Famiclones.

 

howdy partner.

this sytem is a playstation clone and can play backups and originals. as the mexican gentleman already stated it is most likely of chinese origin (note everything written in english). that's 100 dollars a pop - now if I can find a way of actually paying for it I will be picking one up. any mejicano want to help a fellow latino?

 

I mean...how do you know it's a Playstation clone? Just because the seller says so?

 

It sais it on the box - 2 different sellers say so (on 2 different mexican auction sites) - and I will get one, check it out and then confrim. in the end you can't be sure of anything when it comes to these things, but I'm 99% sure that these things work with playstation games

 

I mean, I saw it said Playstation on the box...but last I checked...and as AntiPasta pointed out, Chinese pirates will put anything on their Box if they think it'll get you to buy it. They're not shy about lying.

Anyhoo, you could be right, and if you are, i'll probably end up with one myself sooner or later, but I'm sure you'll understand why we're a little bit skeptical.

 

I'm skeptical because of the complexity of Playstation archetecture that can't be perfectly emulated much less cloned. Playstations aren't exactly made out of discrete parts. Also, the unit's case is modified from the original Chinese VCD players design. Here are the ONLY possibilities in my mind:

1) This is a Famiclone, the sellers are bullshitting you and you're freaking falling for it.
2) It is a "clone" in the sense of a Treamcast, it's a gutted PSOne with a Gamars internal VCD expansion placed inside a shitty Chinese VCD case.

The three biggest clues that it is a Famiclone are:

1) The case/controllers. They are DB9 ports like Famiclones and the case is straight from a Chinese VCD player
2) There are no pictures of the games being played
3) Last but not least:

THERE IS NO FLIPPIN WAY A PIRATE CAN CLONE A SATURN MUCH LESS PLAYSTATION.

 

From what I've researched, in fact it does play PSX games. Both backups and originals.

I don't see a memory card port, though. The guy on MercadoLibre claims this thing has an internal memory card, which I'm not too sure about. I have to take a friend to the black market tomorrow to buy some electronics, so I'll look around for any similar products at decent prices.

If I find anything of interest, I will post about it.

 

Would be quite amazing...a clone beyond 16 bit...

Edit: It's mean...i don't think it's impossible for a chinese cloner to make a playstation clone...and do it at at a fairly good price...I just never thought they'd actually do it..."why go beyond famicom?"

 

The reason why they don't go beyond 16bit is because it's not possible for them to. In 16 bit days things were still on multiple DIP chips, now it's far too costly because they'd have to hire people as smart as or smarter than the Sony designers. There is a big difference between the SNES and PSX, SNES was the last system cloned and likely will remain the last.

Cloning a PSX would involve actually reverse engineering the Sony chips under a microscope, a little different than cloning a MD whose 68K has been around for 25 years and VDP source could be pulled from an emulator.

 

I guess we'll see....

Edit: Oh yeah, what's the name of the SNES clone? I've heard it referred to several times, but I can't track down information nor find a picture on google.

 

It plays some Playstation games.
It has an emulator embebed on a chip: The Emu32.

 

Then it's settled, it's not a PSX clone.

The SNES clone doesn't have a name, it's appearance is a SNES2 but there is no Nintendo markings. Inside all the SMD chips are there but they haven't Nintendo's name on them. It's made by XGA Industries (Xinga) and has been discontinued since 2000. It can be found in XGA's Gamestation product which is one of their clones and a Doctor SF7 clone in one.

 

Well, the R3000 has been around for over 10 years already - and the MIPS design is the one most covered by Computer Architecture text books, research, etc. Also, the GPU source can be pulled straight from an emulator as well - it just requires a whole lot more wiring as its a very complicated component. Same for SPU, GTE and MDEC. I wouldnt for the love of God know how an average DVD player's PCB looked like, but I'd say that the Chinese have advanced a bit further than the utterly crappy Famiclones. After all they can be had for 5e if you look in the right places, I guess they need a new source of profit, too.

 

I think they've all lost their jobs, hardware is accelerating far faster than they can keep up with. Now they're putting all their eggs in GBA.

 

Well, in "my" clone site, there is mention of an USB808 device. There is a Google cache page, that describes it as PC-based hardware. Maybe it's a x86 processor setup? A 200MMX and a plain VGA card is enough to run PSX emulation (albeit super-poorly), and doesn't require anything particularly impressive.

 

so should I get one and look into it then? Joe Sancho, do you have one of these? how did you get your info?

 

If you can afford it, yeah grab one! :smt023