Ouya selling Past any optimistic Numbers

The only problem with emulators I can think of is if people start uploading ones that include ROMs.

Honestly, it's nice to see more critical articles about the Ouya out there. It's amazing how much of a free pass this thing has gotten up until recently.

 

The Ouya shows the American dream still lives.

 

except you know, they own android.

And their google branded phones do very very well.

The downfall of a chrome based netbook was...because it's. It was it's own chromium OS. And you didn't store anything on it - it was all cloud based.

That and Oh I dunno, it wasn't in brick and mortor stores.


but even without that I quote "the Chromebook line is probably the most successful Linux desktop/laptop computer we've seen to date" http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/why-i-left-my-macbook-chromebook-205705

Come on GoH, you're already on the internet. open a fucking tab and well..google something before opening your mouth. Or ass. It's hard to tell which you're talking out of.

 

Emulators as a whole are legal yes; however, they still fall into a gray area depending on how they are used. Video games are intellectual property so companies like Nintendo and Sony can send out cease and desist letters to websites that solely host ROM files. It is legal for you to backup a game if you already own it; however, it becomes illegal if you do not own the game and you are using it for your own gain. Now with that being said, I am a big fan of emulation because the prices of retro gaming are constantly are on the rise and fall due to supply and demand. Instead of me having to pay out X amount of money from an online redistributor or from a hobby shop, I can download the game for my personal use and have the same experience until I feel the need to add the physical game to my collection. Hell, a recent example of this was me adding Earthbound to my collection of ROMs since I never played the game as a kid but simply can't afford the prices for the game. I fully support emulation and emulators, don't get me wrong because I think it's a wonderful thing but there is a whole legal issue in itself that could cause repercussions. This then leads into the whole issue and debate of "is it piracy? is it justifiable?" which no company wants.

Also, there might be one or two emulators on the App Store; however, Apple has a strict policy that application developers are not allowed to upload emulators of any kind to the app store. The only exception to this is companies like Capcom and Atari creating hashed ports with content packs to play ROMs that they choose.

 

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=emulator&c=apps

http://kotaku.com/ouya-tries-to-dispel-fears-that-the-consoles-nintendo-458745016

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Example of how Emulators are 100% perfectly legal, no gray area:
If you go to any major rom site - you'll see Nintendo had them pull almost all Nintendo related roms. Nintendo holds their IP very near and dear. The emulators on the other hand, stay. This is because someone ELSE created it! No gray area - whatsoever.

ROMS are the gray area. There are legal roms, there are your own back ups, etc etc...

If there is no IP distributed along with an emulator, no amount of cease and desist will do anything.

analogy- ROMS are MP3s, AVIs, etc... There are legal MP3s and AVIs of course. There are ones I ripped my self. And ones that are illegal. This is a gray area.

CD-RS and DVD-Rs are 100% legal. You can buy them anywhere. Because they are blank. They have no IP on them.

Now if I sell you a DVD-R of Pacific Rim, that's a whole other story that you're getting mixed up with.

 

Yes, but I believe the grey area of emulators is the BIOS files needed to run them. Because those files are restricted Nintendo property, it is considered illegal to download them.
The legal alternative is to dump them yourself from a purchased console- because now you own the rights to the files inside.

 

Quite a few emulators don't need a BIOS file and instead have a reverse engineered copy. IIRC the Gameboy Colour BIOS was only dumped in 2009 and there were heaps of Gameboy emulators around before then. So it is perfectly possible to have a fully functioning emulator that is entirely your own work.

WRT to the Ouya, sounds like it's just a more pumped up version of the Pi, both in terms of hardware and software support. I just don't think there will be enough quality titles developed for either, hence why they get turned into emulation machines to play all those old quality games.

 

With the Ouya it's hard to tell - right now it's lots of indie stuff but lots of mainstream developers are looking at it. Square already released stuff on it.

 

The only stuff "mainstream" companies have released on Ouya so far has been out on Android before they released it on Ouya. I don't see that changing any time soon.

Ah yes, the American dream of tricking people over the Internet into buying shoddy Chinese-made crap.

 

Free pass? It-s been bashed anywhere and everywhere out of pre release OS snappiness and similar. not to mention the benchmarks posted stating it-s worse than most phones... people still think the pad gets stuck and such things when they fixed it for all the batches in sale.

You should say it-s a miracle it-s going so well after all the bad press it had even before release. :tongue:

 

Squak squak 7force want a cracker squak

your parroting the same thing is getting old

 

Bad press before release? Yeah fucking right, there was much sucking of Ouya dick without people even stopping to question the inherent flaws in the concept. Even now articles about the Ouya don't seem to bother mentioning the fact that backers got screwed over with units that even Julie Uhrman admitted were faulty. Can't say any of the bad press has been undeserved either.

Guess stating facts is really offensive or something. I'd say your non-arguments are what's getting old, so maybe you could say why anyone should develop Ouya-exclusive games when PC has a potential install base and existing market for indie games that dwarfs the Ouya, or, since you're developing for Android anyway, why not target the huge Android phone market through Google Play instead of the miniscule Ouya market?

 

A boring device that sells well to nerds and nerd wannabes because of "freedom" and "hurp durp loonix based"?

Sounds more like the Reddit dream.

 

The worst part of the ouya is the number of other console wannabes who are getting riled up about the prospect of making some quick money by cashing in on the fad. Its weird, like a second ago the entire console market was dying, and now everybody wants to get in, maybe 9 out of 10 social games companies that received tens of millions in funding each going bankrupt each day has something to do about it? one bubble collapses, another comes right back up.

I was finally able to get a Nexus 4 about 2 weeks ago the regular way without having to do some voodoo at the google store to keep it from crashing or paying a ton at ebay to some guy who bought a few and is reselling them. OK I was in Argentina and imports are a bitch there, but still there were supply problems all over the world because at $300 that phone is awesome, there is nothing close to it for the price, but the ouya? there are tons of small android boxes out there, you can throw a kickstarter for a rebranded one and the employees there are not going to care to check.