Pokemon Stadium 64DD disk

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  1. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    I m not sure if everyone has seen this item before, but here it is for those who haven't ;p

    lucky owner ;)
     

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  2. Jasonkhowell

    Jasonkhowell Well Known Member

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    Wait, Barc0de, are you saying you own it? If so, what is on it?
     
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  3. TranceDoll

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    Barc0de, I don't think that this is a picture taken by a collector who happens to have it, as I've seen it before. It's most likely a publicity photo.
     
  4. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    it is a publicity picture, containing the JPN Pokemon Stadium 1 game, not released in the west in cart format.

    I do not own it, and wouldnt admit to owning such a thing anyway to start with ;D

    i m sure there's at least a couple of expo copies of it somewhere. I wouldn't bare the possibility of someone owning it. It's not a highly sought after or popular item though.
     
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  5. kammedo

    kammedo and the lost N64 Hardware Docs

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    Uhm...so it was released on 64DD in japan? Can't remember having heard anything about it...
     
  6. dj898

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    'coz maybe people who do own it won't admit.... ^__^
     
  7. Jasonkhowell

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    Apperantly, since this is the first time I have even heard of the expansion. Do you know what is on it, though? (Such as all the Pokemon like the US version of Stadium/Japanese Stadium 2, etc)
     
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    Pokemon Stadium 64DD

    Hello, picture from IGN :

    Picture from Nintendo Spaceworld 1997 :

    Instead of 64DD, it is printed DISK on game:
     

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  9. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    thanks for the links Gilgamesh.

    Actually what gilgamesh pointed out was Pokemon Stadium 1 JPN (Poke Stadium 1 never released in any form in other countries, it was a shitty game anyway that lacked features)

    The one depicted in this thread is Pokemon Stadium 2 JPN (Poke Stadium 1 in the west).

    neither Stadium 1 or Stadium 2 (JPN) were ever released in their intended 64DD form. They were not designed to be expansion paks. They are exactly what the cartridge offerrings were, albeit with MORE saving space than the cartridge versions.

    PS: thanks to kammedo for pointing my verbal fuckup there
     
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  10. kammedo

    kammedo and the lost N64 Hardware Docs

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    A DD with less saving space than a cartridge?? o_O
    That just proofs another time how bad Big n's policy regarding cartridges was.
     
  11. TranceDoll

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    Gilgamesh, you rock, thanks for the pics :D
     
  12. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    Kammedo, did i say cart with less space? o_O I meant (And hopefully said) that the released versions had less space! I hope i haven't consufed anyone o_O
     
  13. TransatlanticFoe

    TransatlanticFoe Rapidly Rising Member

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    You know, i'll admit that I was extatic (did I spell that right?) when I purchased the import while I was in middle school. I was only 13 at the time, and Pokemon had just dropped on the scene here in the states. It was hard NOT to get sucked into it the hype. Then, when the GB games actually turned out to be good, and very addictive in nature, it just made the premise of 3-D Pokemon models battling each other on the N64 all the more enticing. Alas, i'm now 22 yrs. old going on 23, and haven't played a Pokemon related game in 4 some odd years. Go figure.

    Anyways, from what I understand, like somebody previously posted, the game was planned to have an expansion disk on the DD that would have the remaining Pokemon that were missing from the initial cart release. The cart only had 40 selectable Pokemon in total, most of which are the ones you'd expect. That being the more popular ones. The game also had ass for options, and was very bare bones. I believe that when Nintendo realized that the DD may never materialize (especially not outside of Japan) they just conjured up a quick sequel and took advantage of new cart technology that allowed N64 carts to store much more information (Otherwise, titles like Zelda:OOT and MM would have never been able to fit onto a cart). That sequel, ended up being the first Stadium title released in the states. This sequel had all of the missing Pokemon from the first Stadium, including the elusive Mew. This game was later followed by yet another sequel, that connected with (via the N64 Transfer pack) the (at the time) new Gold and Silver Pokemon titles. This game became known as "Pokemon Stadium 2" in the states, and 3 in Japan.

    To my knowledge, the odds of finding a working disk of Pokemon Stadium 1 (Japan) is as likely as finding a working Mother 3 or Ura-Zelda disks. My point being, it probably doesn't even exist in playable form.

    Does anybody know if the game was ever shown/demonstrated on a working 64DD? That way we may have some leads.
     
  14. kammedo

    kammedo and the lost N64 Hardware Docs

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    Well, if you think that it was released on this side of the ocean on cart, it prolly was developed firstly on 64dd, then moved to cart (as almost all 64dd games...too bad Simcity didn't make it :( ). So probably there is an early version of it somewhere....or possibly only an expo demo. But still something.
    Those things make me want to get a full 64dd dev kit argh xD!!!!
     
  15. TransatlanticFoe

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    Yea, that's what i'm thinking. An expo demo is very possible to exist, but who really knows. If I have the time, I may dig up some old articles on google/IGN/Gamespot later and see what I can find. Unfortunatley even then, it's going to be quite difficult to even find the information we're looking for: weather or not it was running on a cart, or a DD disk.
     
  16. Barc0de

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    The game was shown as a working 64DD title on what appeared to be a Grey disk. ( to be contrasted with work-in-progress, which would be a blue disk usually)

    the story of the game is that originaly, even the Pokemon Stadium 1 JPN was to be released in Disk form - the one that has the ign images.

    Further to the DD's delay, it was released stand-alone and bare bones in cart form, awaiting an expansion disk. (same like Zelda, it was to be a DD only game, then when it was released they made sure they provided DD compatible code for supporting future expansions)

    The first picture in the post might be either the expansion disk, or a stand-alone DD game containing all the pokemon, a sequel to the original game. This was Pokemon Stadium 2JPN

    I have got screenshots of the game running on screens in a Spaceworld, 1996 if i m not mistaken .

    Actually, in 1996, the second version of 64DD was shown to the public. The one that actually got a limited release. The first version of 64DD is the Zip-drive based one, (picture below) and the disks it accepted..well that's my avatar's image :)

    [​IMG]

    The killer-apps for the system announced or shown that day were games such as Donkey Kong Country 64, Sim City, the Mario Artist series, Creator, Jurassic Park, Rev Limit and many others.
     
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  17. Thor

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    I'm pretty sure URA Zelda was going to be the next DD game released when they canned it and was pretty much finished.
     
  18. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    the game was completed and ready to ship. Randnet cut its venture short and it never got released, Ura Zelda was to be the final game indeed.

    There should be copies of Ura Zelda for commercial drives, locked somewhere, or mostly destroyed.
     
  19. kammedo

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    Whatwhatwhat??? A 64DD working with zip disks??
     
  20. TransatlanticFoe

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    So, Pokemon Stadium 2 (JPN) WAS at one point planned for the DD? I never knew that. I figured that the first Stadium game was at one point, planned to just be released as a stand alone DD disk with all of the Pokemon already available, but was released bare bones with plans for an expansion disk after the constant delays of the DD in Japan.

    I guess the question is now, when the game was SHOWN running at expos such as TGS, or Spaceworld, was it running on a DD disk with all of the Pokemon already available, or was it just demo with only a few features/Pokemon? And What about that pic? Is it the expansion disk for the first game? Or is it the game when it was planned for the DD with all of the Pokemon already available as originally planned? That's something we may never figure out.
     
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