the demo shown running on DD hardware was the one later released as Pocket Monster Stadium 1 JPN, with the same menus and graphics. I don't remember any reference to the number of monsters on the particular disk though, since only Sharizard and Blastoize along with some other popular ones were played on-screen. 150 were planned but most probably the demo contained the amount finally released on cart. The graphics of PokeStadium1 JPN are kinda shittier than 2 too, so I m not very convinced that PokeStadium 2 JPN and the expansion disk for the first would be the same disk or game. Interestingly, the image provided at the top is identical to the cover art of Pocket Monster Stadium 2 JPN and its western bretherin's debout titles. That said, Pokemon Stadium 2 G/S *US/PAL* aka Pocket Monster Stadium 3 in JPN gives u a message when the Expansion Pak is installed (in the start screen), yet uses it for sweet fuck all from what i know.
So basically, they were either going to use the Japanese Stadium 1 as a medium for the DD version, or it was meant to have DD expansions with more pokemon, i'm guessing?
all sorts of scenarios, depending on the time and the progress of the 64DD. think of them as "plan A, plan B" etc
Hi again, I scanned this picture from japanese magazine named The 64 Dream: Could somebody make a translation?
super mario 64 disk? That's impossible actually since a) mario64 was designed with cartridge in mind , and was a factor in choosing carts over CDs for the n64 and b) there was never an expansion disk designed for mario 64, since the cart. game did not offer what nintendo referred to as "DD hooks", found in Zelda and F-zero for example. That said, Super Mario 64 II was to be one of the DD's flagship titles! Which makes me believe the depicted item on the left might be S.M64 II hype-art-work more than anything else the Disk to the right is the generic 64DD disk used to promote the system and medium. A similar n64 cartridge was also widely used in expos.
It's possibly that that Mario 64 disk is the rumble pack enhanced version of Mario 64 that was only released in Japan. But this is only a theory, and is HIGHLY unlikely, especially considering that that version of the game was only released on cartridge, and not a DD disk. My other theory is that that scan is VERY old, during the "Ultra 64" era, back when the 64 and DD hardware was first shown...probably at the Nintendo Shoshinkai event in 95' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N64DD). It is possibly, that VERY early on, Mario 64 may have been planned for the DD, although to my knowledge this was never the case, and only a sequel to Mario 64 was later planned, but never materialized.
Also, does anybody remember the proposed "Pocket Monsters RPG" that was announced for the DD, and then never materialized? I have to wonder, wtf is wrong with Nitendo sometimes. Pokemon has been around for 10 years, and they STILL haven't made a 3-D version of the epic(ish) GB titles. Is it really THAT difficult to do? Pokemon Coliseum's "RPG" mode was fucking horrible, and Gale Of Darkness I read was equally as bad.
Here is a pic of the Jap cartridge for the Rumble Pack supported version of Mario 64-http://www.japangamestock.com/buy_video_games.php?cPath=61&products_id=6681 And here is the regular release-http://www.japangamestock.com/buy_video_games.php?cPath=61&products_id=6679 As you can see, the sticker on the regular release is the same as the one on the DD cart pictured in that scan. This doesn't completley own my therioes, but makes me question if in fact Mario 64 WAS, very early on, planned as DD release. This wouldn't make sense though, as Mario 64 was the N64's flagship title....so, it's possible that pic was only plastered on there for promotional purposes, and that we're all just reading too much into this..haha.
the scan cannot be THAT old, dating back to the first days of the n64 , then called Ultra 64, due to the fact that up until space-world 96, the DD unit did not have the form we know of today. Nor were its disks shaped in the depicted way. Also keep in mind that the U64 logo was different from the N64 N-cube logo
Good points. The N64 logo IS on that DD disk isn't it.....pfft, I didn't even make that connection. Woops.
I am not fully sure but it's very posible nintendo had intent to do what they did with the disk drive for the famicom where some games were ultimately avalible on both disk or cart.
That's definitley a possibility. I seriously don't know HOW else to explain that Mario 64 DD cart...it makes no sense. Somebody SERIOUSLY needs to translate that scan asap...and I mean that in the nicest way possible.
considering that some material such as levels was left out of the released version of Mario 64, it would be a nice point of discussion to assume that they may have planned a 1.5 version of the game for the DD. Without any evidence pointing towards that though, I wouldn't dare make such a suggestion. Unfortunately, the famicom model you refer to has never been mentioned in any way, thus hypothesizing about it would fall in the uncharted territory of assumptions based on pretty much nothing.
Yakumo-sama isn´t Japanese, he is a British man living in Japan, with his wife, and his child that is on its way.
I have the Japanese Pocket Monsters Stadium 1, complete with the Game Boy adaptor. I've never had it running though because I don't have a Japanese N64. Though if anyone wants pictures of the box, manual etc I'd be happy to help. Part of the manual is what looks like a sheet showing the 40 included Pokemon. From what I've heard, Stadium was orignally a 64DD only title, but was moved to an N64 game with an expansion. However due to Pokemon's popularity Nintendo released the whole thing on a cartridge as Stadium 2 (which was Stadium 1 outside Japan, confusing isn't it) and skipped the DD. Pokemon Snap was also a DD only title at some point, and I think the N64 version has hooks for an expansion, though I'm not sure. Pocket Monsters RPG was also in the works, but apart from it appearing on the list of games, I've never found any other information about it. But it was likely a 3d version of the Game Boy games, possibly set in Johto like Gold and Silver. They probably started development at about the the same time so it's a possibility. I think every Pokemon N64 game started off on the DD apart from maybe Hey You Pikachu! (though wasn't the microphone a DD add on orignally?).