Police killed a PS3 thief!!

Terrible news.

 

Damn, maybe they went a little too far, but who really knows what happened in that house. It's hard to say what you would do in that situation.

Anyway the guy who got killed sounds like he was a real scumbag, they probably over did it, but at least he cannot victimize anyone else. I mean what he did to the other guy when he robbed him of his Ps3's could be considered assault with a deadly weapon/attempted murder.

Wow, is the only other thing I can think to say, this world is getting pretty bad.

 

Frat boys needed to be taught a lesson.

 

While it seems obsessive to shoot a guy in his home when he doesn't have a weapon, sounds to me like he tried to sic his German Shepard on the cops (since they shot the dog too.) We can guess the guy was probably trying to fight them somehow. I don't usually side with the cops when it comes to police brutality cases (as I have seen it happen first hand, and let's face it, cops are assholes) but it sounds to me like in this case it was justified.

Besides, screw that guy. If he hadn't had ripped off an innocent person of his hard earned property he'd be alive right now. That's karma for you.

 

Exactly what I was thinking, The dog most likely attacked the police and they defended themselves. None of us were there though so its a bit early to pass judgement.

 

You might as well lock this topic now, because it'll be flooded with crying pacifist hippies tomorrow.

 

Yes, because people complaining about public servants killing unarmed civilians must all be America hating commies.

 

Trust me, the only thing that will come from this thread will be a long ass flamewar between pacifists and people who think thieves should be taught a lesson and / or made an example of.

I never called anyone here an "America hating commie" or anything like that, I just thought the term hippy goes good with the term pacifist, and there are a lot of people like that on this board.

Anyways, I think people should know better than make topics like this on THIS board.

Its too much of a gray area and a little too sensitive a topic, and if someone did some research, they would know not to make topics like this. Just search for the NRA to see what I'm talking about.

Also, I resent the fact that when *I* make a generalization on this board, you guys get so offended, but when say, Yakumo, says "Only In America!" you guys say nothing at all. Believe it or not, America isn't such a bad place to live! h:

What if someone made a Guro thread, and I said "Only in Japan!"? I know EXACTLY what would happen. You guys would start calling me a Nazi, calling me closed-minded, and all other sorts of horseshit you guys KNOW you would do.

 

Erm, America isn't too bad a place to live...I should know, I live here!

Just seemed like you were implying something about pacifists that seemed out of line. And if I saw Yakumo (or anyone else) making broad generalisations I would call them on it.

Nothing personal though, it's just the intrawebs.

 

I think it sucks that he died, but let's face it guys -- the cops (no matter how big of a dick they are) are out to protect themselves first. If they felt threatened, they're going to strike. You don't need a weapon at all... you just need to make the copy think you have one. If you go running around corners in your house, they're probably going to shoot you, and I'm pretty sure it's in the book.

There's an easy way out of this, and every situation w/ the cops. Do what the fuck they say. It's not rocket science. You'll never talk them out of something, and you'll rarely get them first.

 

Serves him right. Just think of all the misery this guy has caused people in the past and how much he would cause in the future if he wasn't killed. I have no time for thieves. Fucking scum that need to be sorted as soon as possible. I can fully understand stealing food to survive. While it's wrong you are doing it to survive. Stealing a PS3 or a car or what ever is not being done to survive but to make money out of someone's expense and it's this that I can't stand.

If I was in that house I would have shot the bastard in the legs first then take him out if he drew a weapon.

I don't care what anyone here thinks of my comments. I'm sticking to them. Scum needs to be sorted. Growing up in a poor area has fuck all to do with it as well. I wasn't well off when I was young like I am now (well not well off but not poor either). Work hard to make your life !

Yakumo

 

I am no fan of the police but in this case there are just too many unknowns to judge them prematurely. Did they do things right and it still come to a bad end? Did they screw up and are now covering their collective asses? Equal chance of both. One fact that is clear though is that this person took part in an armed robbery that left someone on the ground with a shotgun blast... over a Playstation 3. If I were the police I would take few chances with someone willing to start shooting over something so trivial.

That being said the larger problem I see with this story and one that is becoming more of a problem in general is the unnecessary use of door breaching warrants. These are frequently being used here by police and are often ending in tragic results.

 

Whoa. I think they over-reacted a bit. Taking someone's life isn't something you do within 5 minutes of conversation, unless the other guy has apparently got intent to attack u with a knife or something. Even then, you can shoot him non-fataly.

 

Hah, I know someone who goes to UNC Wilmington... Wonder if he knew the guy.

Honestly, if the guy really did jump someone to get two PS3's, then I think he should've seen something like this coming. While I don't like police as a general rule (since 90% of the ones I've met have superiority complexes), they probably had a good reason to shoot an unarmed civilian.

 

Is human life really that cheap? I'm not sure shooting someone just because they stole something and thus are 'scum that need sorting out' or might of had a gun is hugely justifable.

That's far too close to the trigger happy mentality that was responsible for this kind of thing for my liking: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6201120.stm

or something closer to home:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5205286.stm

 

A thief, is a thief, is a thief. If you break the law where cops are armed expect to get shot. Yes it may seem a little hard, but as far as Im concerned tuff shit. As long as the police gave him chance to stop and be arrested then then im ok with it.

 

Human life is cheap if they're cheap enough to steal something rather than work for it. I don't agree with the "shoot and ask questions later" mentality, but I doubt the officers would have shot if they didn't feel threatened. That's just plain murder.

 

This one really winds me up, the police officers were doing there job, they were faced with what they beleve was a bomber - just how many people would of be crying out if he was a bomber and did blow him self up????

FACT! He was given chance to stop
FACT! The police identified themselves as ARMED POLICE!
FACT! He was running in a packed train possibley with a BOMB
The police had to stop him at all costs.








Lets not add to the fact he should not of even been in the country....

 

Why?is there something wrong with foreigners in another country?

On the subject of the Brazilian guy, he was shot from the back while seated. He was not given a chance.

Official statements from the head of the Police contradicted evidence to the opposites of what was said, and thus the shame that arose from that.

You can be as "harsh" as you want, but those of you who support killing a guy for stealing 2 consoles, would feel right at home in Saudi Arabia where they chop a guy's hand off if he steals. Or thats not enough either? a bullet to the head is more helpful to set an example that stealing is bad?

 

so easy to wind a bunch of people up. you break the law. your gonna get screwed in the future. i don't usually side with police*all of my run ins have involved baseless charges which were immediatly dissmissed by a judge. they were that stupid* but looking at the evidence and past the "he was such a good boy" crap. it looks like this event was completely justified

and barcode. how do you know that he didn't try and attack the police? you weren't there.