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PS1 10th Million Model

Discussion in 'Price Check Forum' started by tichua, Sep 6, 2013.

  1. NetYaroze

    NetYaroze Robust Member

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  2. TriMesh

    TriMesh Site Supporter 2013-2017

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    Just out of interest, which version is this? I'm curious because I've seen two of them so far - and one (the SCPH-7000W Japanese model) had a universal input power supply, would boot disks from any region and didn't display the SCEx string (like a debug or Yaroze), and the other (a SCPH-7002 PAL unit) would only boot PAL disks, had a single-range 220-250V PSU and showed "SCEE" on the boot screen.

    Ever since I wondered if that was standard for the PAL units or if the one I saw had it's works swapped.
     
  3. defor

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    interesting with a W after the name- i wonder if it signifies "wold" or similar and is like you say- is some kind of recased yaroze?
     
  4. TriMesh

    TriMesh Site Supporter 2013-2017

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    Yeah, I was wondering if it meant that, too - it's obviously not just a Yaroze in a different case, though - the Yaroze machines all used PU-8 boards and had the old CD drive position, and that SCPH-7000W had the new CD drive position and seemed to have a PU-18 or PU-20 main board (the owner wouldn't let me open it up to verify which, but it had 6 screws holding the top cover on but the wrong vent pattern for a PU-22).

    It also booted NTSC:J, NTSC:U/C and PAL software (with a valid PAL composite signal) and would boot the Yaroze boot CD (which came up in NTSC mode), but wouldn't boot copies. One rather strange thing was that despite having Japanese docs and presumably having been supplied for Japan the PSU rating was 110V-240V 50/60Hz - which doesn't include the nominal 100V 50/60Hz they use in Japan (although it would probably work...)

    Nice looking unit, but he wanted more for it than I wanted to pay.
     
  5. Mugi

    Mugi Site Supporter 2013,2014,2015

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    this is for sale ? o.o
    i'd be all over it! i even have a comfy spot for it right next to yaroze :p
     
  6. TriMesh

    TriMesh Site Supporter 2013-2017

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    I don't know - that was about 18 months ago, and he wanted 1200 EUR for it - but it was complete with the accessories and in very nice condition.

    Edit:

    Apparently he has sold it ... for 500 EUR ... which is a price I would have been happy to buy it.

    Annoying.
     
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  7. Mugi

    Mugi Site Supporter 2013,2014,2015

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    ah, you had me scared for a second there :p

    i can feel you though, sinking 1200€ on a ps1 will kill even a collector ;__;
     
  8. tichua

    tichua Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    The one I posted is just for price checking purpose, at least for now :)
     
  9. Mugi

    Mugi Site Supporter 2013,2014,2015

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    Which is why i was surprised when i thought Trimesh was tallking about this particular one :p
    im familiar with the board rules, so i'll wait until you put it on the marketplace and home im around at the right time.
     
  10. superg

    superg Site Supporter 2013,2014,2015. Tape Drive Donor.

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    On yahoo japan almost two years ago one like this gone for $800. Fully boxed with manuals, mint condition. My bid was $400, but I failed :).
     
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  12. tichua

    tichua Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    looks like the prices vary a lot depend on how much the buyers would like to pay at a certain time. Mine is NTSC U/C model, SCPH-7001 and it only boots retail NTSC U/C games.
     
  13. Mugi

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    tichua Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    The surface is matte (a bit rough) finish just like the net yaroze. and it's just a regular PS1 in term of functionality, except the 7000W that can run discs from all regions (don't quote me on this though)
     
  15. TriMesh

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    OK, that's what I was wondering - it sounds like it's like the PAL unit I saw and has exactly the same internal parts as a standard retail. I assume it also displays the "SCEA" string under the "Licensed by" line on the boot screen?
     
  16. tichua

    tichua Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    That is correct. My unit came from SCEA and it does display 'SCEA' on the boot screen
     
  17. Mugi

    Mugi Site Supporter 2013,2014,2015

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    the region free-ness is a nice attribute, but i find it a little useless, since they (well, my yaroze atleast) being PAL unit, runs everything at 50Hz, so i'll rather just play NTSC stuff with a chipped one :p

    also, this ia a little offtopic, but arent modchips supposed to work by inserting the SCEE/SCEA/SCEI thing depending on the game's region to make games of all regions work, or something like that ?
    just asking since i remember hearing it works that way, and i looked at my own ps1 the other day (18 years old, the chip is around the same age) and no matter what i throw at it, the text is always SCEE, but boot s everything regardless.
     
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  18. TriMesh

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    It's the other way around - the modchip always sends the data corresponding to the console's region to the CD controller, so in your case with a PAL console it will send "SCEE" no matter what region the disc is from. On the black boot screen, the logo and the "Licensed by" text are read from the disc, so they will reflect the territory that the disc was produced for, but that 4 character string in the last line is read from the CD controller and hence will always contain the same string.

    On a debug or Yaroze, the string returned always consists of 4 spaces, no matter what was read from the disc, which is why that section of the screen appears blank.

    Incidentally, I'm pretty sure that my DTL-H3002 produced correct 60Hz frame rate NTSC when booted with a NTSC game, so I'm not sure why you're getting 50Hz out of yours - I would recommend you don't use it too much anyway, though - all the ones I've seen had KSM440-ACM optical pickups in them, and although they aren't as bad as the AAMs they are still not the most reliable things.
     
  19. Mugi

    Mugi Site Supporter 2013,2014,2015

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    heh, so i was right but got it upside down. :p
    Well that clears it up then, just been bugging me for a while :p

    As for the yaroze, it doesnt get much use, i have less expensive ps1's to wear down.
    but yeah, i remember testing it out back when i bought it, and yeah, while it does boot games of all regions, they also all run on PAL mode, which isnt fun at all.
    Granted, i could just remember wrong, it's been a long while and i only ever used it to play a few japanese imports i have. The unit itself doesnt look like it's been ever used much, and the disks it came with are even sealed still :p
     
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  20. Myria

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    Tichua, could you check whether your midnight blue system boots Japanese games? Also, what is its model number? It'd be even better if you could dump its firmware, but this is a pain in the ass in modern times - you'd either need a way to read PS1 memory cards to PC or be able to use Caetla + com link.

    I wish I knew someone with the Yaroze boot disk so I could answer an interesting question: does an SCPH-7000W (Japanese midnight blue) boot it?
     
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