PS1: vibration on wireless controller only....?!

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  1. Ichisuke

    Ichisuke Rising Member

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    Hi guys. Some months ago I've got a Pal PS1 9002. It is modded (don't know what modchip it has) but only today I've discovered that the dual shock vibration function is not working. The point is that until now I've used a logitech cordless controller, it's actually for PS2 since on the PS1 the dongle you connect to the console doesn't let you insert a memory card in the same slot and it works perfectly. If I use a wired controller it doesn't vibrate. Tried 2 dual shock and 2 dualshock2.... I know there is a fuse/resistor that's if it's blowned up it won't make the controller vibrate but the wireless one works..... It seems like that the wired one is not receiving enough signal/voltage while the logitech dongle not having a cable and directly connected to the port receive the signal and it's able to send it to the wireless controller.
    Only the vibration is acting this weird. Everything else is working fine.
     
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  2. master991

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    Check the fuses on the mainboard, that's the problem.... You should not have the 7.5 V line.
     
  3. MonkeyBoyJoey

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    This may be a stupid and pointless question but are you sure it is a DS1? Not many people seem to know this but there are actually two types of PS1 controllers with analog sticks: the lighter, rumble-less, analog controller and the heavier, rumbling, Dualshock 1. They both have the same markings on the underside for some reason.

    If you know for a fact it is a DS1, then please disregard what I previously said. Like master991 said, check the fuses and replace them if necessary. If you can get one small enough, I recommend an automotive fuse holder and glass fuses that are the same rating as the original fuse. After soldering them in, you can then replace the fuse in the future without heating up a soldering iron. I did this to my Sega CD Model 1 and it works great!
     
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  4. Ichisuke

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    They are genuine Sony Dual shock.
    What are the fuses that I have to check...?
    And why is the wireless logitech controller vibrating correctly...?
     
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    I have no idea what fuses to check. Since the Logitech works fine, the other controllers probably have bad parts on the controllers' boards.
     
  6. Ichisuke

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    The other controllers work fine on another PS1 and on the PS2....
     
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    Now that really makes me scratch my head. There must be a problem with the PS1's controller ports. Does it do this on both ports or just one of them?
     
  8. Ichisuke

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    On both.... at first I thought that the logitech dongle ruined some connectors, making them more wide so that an original controller wouldn't work properly but I've never put it in the second port.
     
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    Then something is broken on the console's motherboard. I've never heard of this issue before so I have no idea what could be causing it.
     
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    It may be either one of two things:

    Situation 1: Bad fuse. As mentioned, this fuse is on the 7.5v line. It is on PS602 IIRC.

    Situation 2: If that still wont fix it, you may have to get a new controller port daughterboard on ebay or something.
     
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  11. Ichisuke

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    As master 991 said the fuses are the problem. Both the wireless and wired controllers receive the vibrations input. The point is that the wired controller is not receiving the motor power. The wireless controller instead is powered by its own batteries so that's why it vibrates correctly.
     
  12. Ichisuke

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    Thanks. I'm not able to solder anything but I can check the fuse.
     
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    You will have to replace the fuse, which involves soldering. If you do not know how, I recommend taking it to someone who does.

    If you have the time, I recommend learning how to solder. It's quite easy if you be careful and patient. I'm sure you can get a decent soldering iron for about $40-60 USD.
     
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    Find out that one of the small "black box" resistance/fuse with a 20 on it is not working... http://imgur.com/xcDPNdk
     
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    Tha's the solution.
    Yeah, it's him, you must replace the fuse with another fuse, and not a stupid link wire.
    If you don't replace that fuse you will have problem even with 3rd party MC cards.

    The wireless controller don't use the 7.5v line for the vibration, but the battery in the controller itself. That's why it works the same.
     
  16. Ichisuke

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    Can you please tell me what fuse?
    BTW the image is not of the 9002 motherboard but that is the same fuse.
    Now that you mentioned it. The console came with a 2mb memory card(or whatever size it was) and I wasn't able to make it work. I didn't think to try it in another console. I just gave it to my cousin and he told me that it was working with his ps1.
     
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