1. There have been major changes to the marketplace rules. Please read them again. The biggest changes involve image hosting, originality of items, and the number of infractions before ban. By dismissing this notification, you acknowledge awareness about the new guidelines.

PS2 Tool/Test & Xbox Debug kit

Discussion in 'Price Check Forum' started by FlamingSpaz, Jul 28, 2016.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. FlamingSpaz

    FlamingSpaz Rising Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2016
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    22
    Hey folks!

    I'm trying to find the value of these items (mainly the Xbox) and wondering if y'all can help. I (and all of the items) are in the UK.

    PS2 Tool DTL-T10000

    It came with DTL-H20400 40GB HDD, 2x PC adapters and 2x metal things that look like ferrit cores. It also has a PCMCIA slot. I have tested it and it works but I have yet to see if there's anything on the drives so I'm looking for a price assuming average-good condition and no unreleased titles on the system. My searches came up with a huge price range so I'd like to narrow it down a bit.
    DSC_0093.JPG.jpg

    PS2 Test DTL-H30102 & DTL-H30101 E
    I'm assuming these will be both a similar price but they work and they're in great condition. Nothing in the expansion bays.
    DSC_0095.JPG.jpg DSC_0096.JPG.jpg

    Xbox Debug Kit
    I made a thread in the Xbox category where I detailed the unreleased game that's on the system. It's in almost new condition with boxed accessories.
    DSC_0097.JPG.jpg
    More images

    Let me know if you need more information or pictures, and thanks in advance!
     
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2016
  2. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2005
    Messages:
    9,543
    Likes Received:
    1,880
    You should update with your location. The issue with the PS2 Tool is the weight and how fragile they are.

    The Xbox is worth maybe 125-175 at this point without data, perhaps a bit more with the extra bits you have. The game is early, so you might be looking at 100-150 for it.
     
    FlamingSpaz likes this.
  3. FlamingSpaz

    FlamingSpaz Rising Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2016
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    22
    Thanks! I'm based in the UK and I've updated the OP.
    These things are definitely not light ;). I guess I'm looking for a general European pricing. So far the closest I've found is between 300 and 1000 USD.
    Yeah, the game is really early and it wasn't a particularly noteworthy release so I don't think that would add to the value.
     
  4. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2005
    Messages:
    9,543
    Likes Received:
    1,880
    Yeah, you might be able to get a Tool for 350US if it's missing a bit or bob. Should look around 500-600US easy. I cant recall if someone is stashing a bunch of Tools for future sale in the UK though. Depending on where you are located, someone picking it up from you is the best course of action.
     
    FlamingSpaz likes this.
  5. FlamingSpaz

    FlamingSpaz Rising Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2016
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    22
    AFAIK other than software/manuals/box there's nothing missing. One of the perks of living in London is that there's a whole ton of people, but I'm not planning on selling the tool in the near future. Do you think the price would go up in the future?

    Last items are the test units which I've seen on this forum around 200USD, is that still accurate?

    (Thanks again btw, it's much appreciated)
     
  6. Charels

    Charels always bored

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2013
    Messages:
    169
    Likes Received:
    136
    I recently bought a Japanese PS2 test for around $160 but it was dinged up a bit so $200 would be a bit on the high end unless it was in very good condition.
     
    FlamingSpaz likes this.
  7. FlamingSpaz

    FlamingSpaz Rising Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2016
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    22
    I'd say these are very good condition with no visible dings or even scratches. However I'd assume that a Japanese console would go for more so would ~160USD be a fairer value?
     
  8. DeChief

    DeChief Rustled.

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2014
    Messages:
    1,704
    Likes Received:
    712
    I'm the one who sold Charels the PS2 test unit. It was a DTL-H10000, the very first debugging station, and I don't think they're worth as much (despite being the best units to have for playing retail games because of no region lock). Your units have stranger serial numbers so I'm assuming they're PAL, which seem to almost always go for more than NTSC tests. I'd value them at somewhere between $170 ~ $200 USD. You could always try for $200 and then lower the price later.
     
    FlamingSpaz likes this.
  9. FlamingSpaz

    FlamingSpaz Rising Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2016
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    22
    Interesting, I always thought that Japanese versions of anything are more sought after. One of the units is PAL and the other NTSC U/C but from what I gather there's a separate model number for NTSC units which were going to PAL regions.

    Thanks for the input!

    I just wanted to loop back to this because I may have misunderstood. Did you mean 125-175 for the hardware and 100-150 just for the game build? Do people buy game builds separately?
     
  10. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2005
    Messages:
    9,543
    Likes Received:
    1,880
    People will buy it separately, or with the kit itself. Id make an offer myself, but too many other things going on.
     
    FlamingSpaz likes this.
  11. DeChief

    DeChief Rustled.

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2014
    Messages:
    1,704
    Likes Received:
    712
    I've never found that to be the case with anything honestly, Japanese versions of things were usually made in much higher numbers and are therefore lower in price compared to American or European versions. Unless it's something like the Sega Mega Drive of course.
     
  12. sp193

    sp193 Site Soldier

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2012
    Messages:
    2,217
    Likes Received:
    1,052
    Not every TOOL had the DTL-T14000 installed, so you might want to check if yours has one.

    They're not just PAL DEX units, but the newer versions that have support for MagicGate file booting. Unlike your DTL-H10000, these units can support the (SONY) HDD-based stuff, which includes the TDB startup card. FHDB and FMCB are supported too.

    Unless, they're Japanese exclusives.
     
    FlamingSpaz likes this.
  13. FlamingSpaz

    FlamingSpaz Rising Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2016
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    22
    This opens up a few more general questions, mods please let me know if this gets too off-topic.

    - Is there a technical reason I couldn't send the dump to many people or is it rules/etiquette?
    - If you don't mind explaining I'd like to know how you got to the 100-150 value. What is it you looked at?

    I plan on making a thread in the Sony category but before I mess with anything I want to image the internal HDD. Is it possible to do through USB/PC connector or will I need to open it up and take out the drive? Would the tool lose value if it's been opened before?

    (Sorry for all the noob questions, I'm new to dev console hardware/software)
     
  14. sp193

    sp193 Site Soldier

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2012
    Messages:
    2,217
    Likes Received:
    1,052
    I'm not sure what you mean by "PC connector", but the SBC board (the PC on a PCI card) has no USB ports.

    Not all TOOLs support PXE booting. If it does, then you might be able to image the disk without opening the TOOL.

    unclejun described the only options in this thread: http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/ps2-tool-hdd-clone.29064/

    You have to open it up if you cannot do PXE booting, but you don't necessarily have to take out the HDDs.
    The other way would be to connect a CD/DVD drive to the SBC board, to boot cloning software that can save the image to your PC, across the network.

    I guess, that is a given because opening it would mean that you tampered with it. At least, it will matter to those who absolutely care about originality...
    Also because the TOOL is largely made of plastic, is very heavy and are already about 15 years old, you may also inevidently crack some of the plastic inside.
     
    FlamingSpaz likes this.
  15. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2005
    Messages:
    9,543
    Likes Received:
    1,880
    You can send it to whomever, but selling things to multiple people is against the rules. At that point you are essentially a bootleging operation, and we don't allow that. Its not fair for someone to give you money then have that invalidated because you also sold it to someone else who is now giving it out for free. Its not worth any sane person spending money on it at that point.

    And the value is an estimate based on buying things in the past. I've bought Xboxes with similar data for around that price on multiple occasions.
     
    FlamingSpaz likes this.
  16. FlamingSpaz

    FlamingSpaz Rising Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2016
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    22
    I totally agree, it'd be a dick move to do that.

    And with that, I think I can call this price check done. I'll follow up about the tool in the Sony category.

    Thanks so much everyone!
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 6, 2016
  17. theps1master

    theps1master Robust Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2016
    Messages:
    271
    Likes Received:
    26
    Ps2 tool is great but can be hard to sell
     
  18. FlamingSpaz

    FlamingSpaz Rising Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2016
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    22
    but... :D

    DSC_0153.JPG

    I guess there is no price difference between the T10000 and T10000H? It came with the same kit as the first + 1 memory card.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 6, 2016
  19. theps1master

    theps1master Robust Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2016
    Messages:
    271
    Likes Received:
    26
    Good luck mate
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page