So the better half picks me up a PS3 over the holidays, it was the 320g Move bundle. Hooked it up and the fucking thing was dead, brand new straight out of the box. That should have told me something right there but I decided to press on. The TV in my living room is a few years old. It doesn't have HDMI inputs nor does it support 720p. Yeah yeah, I know it's a dinosaur, buy a new one, etc; but it supports every device I have flawlessly so I have no need to upgrade. The fact I dropped a bit over 2k on it when I bought it makes be a bit slow to upgrade also. Exchanged the system for a new working one and picked up a few blu-ray movies at the same time. After hooking everything up I felt like throwing the goddamn thing out the window. First off, I knew prior that to get 1080p out of the blu-ray playback you had to use HDMI cables. That wasn't a concern since my TV doesn't support 1080p anyway. Come to find out, you have to use HDMI period to get anything other than 480i. You can put display the precious dashboard in 1080i, along with a select few games, but not BD movies. So I can toss these movies in the garbage can. Then I try out some of the games. I guess I've been spoiled by years of 360 use, since almost all the games and demos I've got don't even support 1080i. But wait, do they just upscale the 480/720 picture to 1080i? Nope. And being that my TV doesn't support 720p, I get to look at these glorious turds in 480p, the same resolution as I get on my Wii. I find it wonderful that Sony supports all these draconian measures to force new tech when it comes to HD playback yet they don't require all games to support 1080i like MS does. Well, at least I have Dead Island, and it supports 1080i. No wait, it doesn't, SINCE THAT'S A TYPO ON THE BOX, so I get to play it in 480p also. I'm so glad I own it for PS3 instead of 360. So for all intents and purposes, due to my TV not having HDMI nor 720p support, I might as well hook it up with an RF cable. And the Move setup? Garbage. I didn't realize how much I missed calibrating a device every single time you put in a game since the PS1 Guncon era.
Scaling was always an issue on the PS3, as in it really didnt have a scaler like the 360. Surprised your TV doesn't scale either though. But as for Blurays, that is due to the standard, not the PS3. It went into effect recently, and impacts all new players, not just the Playstation. " the new AACS Final Adopter Agreement notes that any Blu-ray-playing device sold after December 31, 2010 "must limit analog video output of BD content to interlaced standard definition," also known as 480i. In other words, if you're not watching a Blu-ray played over a digital signal, you'll be stuck watching it in 480i, something that largely defeats the benefits of watching a movie or TV show on Blu-ray." http://www.1up.com/news/new-ps3-model-requires-hdmi-hd-blu-ray-playback-not-hd-gaming
Ah, companies and their draconian methods to force consumers to buy something that they don't really need... If it wasn't for the massive flocks of sheep, the people's voices may have done some good to change some of this bull-crap, but nooo, the majority of people are ignorant as crap and can't even tell the difference between 480p and 1080p. "AS LONG AS IT HERP A DERP DE DERP NASCARRRRR WORKS"
The PS Move was just to keep up with sales / in the market, and what people would say. "Duh, get an Xbox. It has the magical Kinect system. What does your PS3 have?". It was a quick thing Sony threw together. Garbage.
Yes the Playstation 3 is pretty much garbage to me too. I've never liked SONY hardware (Sorry Haunted ). I'm sure though the Playstation 3 can get 720p by component cables. That's what I read anyway. Quality isn't really there however.
I came across that exact link today when I was trying to figure out why the hell my BD's were playing in 480i. The shitty part about it is that there it's not listed on the PS3 packaging anywhere to determine which models this applies to or not, nor does it say in on the actual system settings. Hell, it pops up a message that you have to confirm that states commercially produced DVD's require HDMI to be upscaled beyond 480p, yet there's no type of message or warning regarding that on blu-ray playback. I also checked on the packaging of a few Sony blu-ray players today and the most that is mentioned is that HDMI is required for 1080p upscaling of regular DVD's. Nothing said about being limited to 480i over component. Why would you even include component inputs on a player with those limitations? Which is another stupid thing; a store bought DVD won't be upscaled yet if I make a DVD-R of the same exact thing it will play in 1080i/1080p. With my current setup PS3 setup ripped/pirated/torrented/copied media will all play in 1080i but not legitimate store bought purchases.
DRM works that way unfortunately. Punish those who pay in an attempt to punish those who didn't pay in the first place.
I had a similar problem when getting my PS3. No HDMI-capable TV available (I generally don't watch TV, and the few things that I feel not to be time-wasters are fine on my 20-year old 15 inch CRT), and the PC screen is ancient (it already has DVI-I, but supports only the 4:3 aspect ratio, no 16:9). Digital input from the PS3 results in a black picture (which is expected), and when feeding in 16:9 material via VGA, it gets stretched badly, moving parts of the picture out of the visible area :banghead:. Ended up using a HDMI-to-VGA converter (to get rid of you-know-what), than another scaler for VGA-to-DVI-D conversion (and insertion of black lines to make a 4:3 image). The converter chain cost nearly as much as the PS3, but I can at least reuse it when the console goes west...
Actually I agree 100% that the PS3 is garbage. It just does not seem like a Sony product to me. The PS1 and PS2 were much more solid in my point of view, and had a good 'feeling' when ever you turned it on.
Aren't the newer PS3's the ones that are limited to what they can output? My I bought my PS3 slim before that so called "unhackable" revision came out and modified it. Correct me if I'm wrong though, I'm not sure. I use component cables for a sharper picture on my TV, although it's pretty much a fancy CRT, but that's still 480p (Not that I really care) If I want to play something on 1080p or watch a bluray, I just hook it up to my monitor. The only thing my PS3 is good for is as a bluray player, the PC and N64 keep my happy.
Yeah, I always find myself switching off the PS3 or Xbox after a few minutes and returning back to the PS1 or Mega Drive and end up playing for hours on them.
We have one of these on order HDMI to HDMI converter http://www.ebay.com/itm/270876059421 to solve our compatibility problems.
I just use a Chinese HDMI <---> Component box. It simply strips out all the security and outputs the result via Component. And this was before HDCP was broken. Now days, I assume getting a DRM stripper should be an easy job. Something like what thelastuser posted should do just fine.
Wii>PS3 for the sheer amount of games and fun you can have. Oh and one person doesn't have to be stuck with the pink ball at the end of the wiimote:nod:. PS3 is great and all(I own one) but for really old hardware;there expensive to experiment on(nothing on CL for less than $100). I don't even want to remove a screw on mine until the prices go down. I can pick a wii up for 50$; 35$ if the drive is broken. Oh, I'm generally a classic gamer. All FPS's seem the same to me. The concept really hasn't moved on. I mostly just bought my PS3, because at the time it was 20$ more than the next cheapest bluray player. I don't even know why I bought a 360.
