retro, Don't you think the nonpaying ones are any good for stats? why pay for something that is free? The other thing I have found is the paying ones are not always that good. I have heard bad advice has been given by some of these marketing firms from people who own businesses. I would only treat stats as a guide line not the be all end all.
I think it's hilarious that there's an 8-page thread stating the PS3 will be dead in less than a year and a half. The DC lasted way longer, sold way less, and CSK had way less money than Sony. This is a joke, right?
It just shows peoples bias toward Sony right now. I wish another company would come along that people can bitch about. I'm not a staunch defender in Sony by any means, but I am a fan. I admit where they have faults, but to say that the PS3 is horrible and it's going to die within a year blah blah blah...bullshit.
PS3s haven't had great reliability either though, mate I am qualifying this statement from having worked in retail and dealt with issues, returns and talking to the Sony UK distributors on a daily basis, not "well, me and a coupla mates are fine". Incidentally, I've had my 360 for two years and it's still running fine. The PS3 has some good games. Unfortunately, a lot of them are on 360, too. The PS3 has very few good EXCLUSIVE games, I think that's the point. It is all down to personal opinion. You've given yours, respect to that. In my personal opinion, the PS3 is not a quality item at all. The 360 looks and feels much better, too. Oh, and it who says the RROD is a bad thing? The 360 now has a longer warranty ;-) lol. I can replace mine tomorrow if it dies. Had I bought a PS3 two years ago and it overheated, should I be saying, "Oh well, time to buy a new one"? FUCK THAT! I'd be saying, "Oh my God, what an overpriced piece of shit! And Sony don't care, the money-grabbing bastards!"
Never have had one issue with my 80GB PS3...it's tip top. I think people just need to take better care of their machines. I remember there were issues people had with PS2's stop working. I still have mine to this day (almost 8 years) and it runs perfect. I actually take care of my machines (dust them off occasionally basically) and have had no issues.
It kind of sucks money and sales are what matter the most...Dreamcast died and was way fucking better then the PS2 up till it died, but noooo....
LBP flOw MGS4 Wipeout Tekken Uncharted Super Stardust HD Echochrome PixelJunk Eden Valkyria Chronicles FFXIII (when it's eventually out) Folklore Eye of Judgement Hot Shots Golf GT5 Killzone Resistance:FOM Ratchet & Clank That's just the cream of the crop, and like you said, there's tons of cross platform games, even though I also have a 360, that's not the first platform I choose a cross platform game on. I couldn't give a shit about online FPS games, so would rather pick the console the pad fits better with and doesn't need my TV turned up to 14 to be able to hear anything.
I'm just being a dick but those two aren't exclusive....nitpicky, I know, lol. And the last one, huh? What do you mean?
Well the PS3 is getting Versus XIII exclusive...and honestly I'd rather play that one over regular XIII anyhow (but, admittedly I'm getting both) And I'm not sure about the volume thing either...my friend's 360 doesn't do that, maybe it's just your TV? I know my PS3 always plays my audio files REALLY loud compared to what the TV setting is....not complaining, it's good quality, just a bit shocking when I have the volume on 15 so as not to wake my neighbors and it comes blaring out like it's on 50 haha. Only for music though. Yeah, the XBOX exclusives I've seen really don't appeal to me like the PS3 ones do...I enjoyed Fable 1, but pfft...just one game.
I just hope they don't have ass the 360 port of FF13 (if it's even a good game...RPG's seem to suck now). Same with if MGS4 every comes out for 360. I can see them being better in some ways and worse in others, but if a game is really designed for one system it's usually better on that, I just would rather play stuff on the 360 myself. What's FF13 Versus? I was under the impression it was a side game or something. Google time I guess. If your looking forward to FF13, Lost Odyssey is pretty kick ass!
The only way to get accurate charts is to pay. Someone has to compile data - do you think that's done for free? If someone chooses to buy that data and release it for free (offsetting the cost in another way e.g. advertising) that's up to them. It was still paid for! What I'm saying is that, if you're in a position of authority (e.g. a magazine) then you'll have charts with a little footnote as to where they came from. Watch the news, you'll see that when they give stats (e.g. unemployment is up 50%) it'll say something like (data compiled by GfK). You don't print a chart saying - data plucked out of my arse. Deliberate selling tactic ;-) haha! PRECISELY what I said about my 360! It works both ways. Shame you don't have a 360, then! The dashboard has a volume control exclusively for music ;-) I'd be very surprised if the PS3 doesn't, too. Tachikoma, congratulations on producing a list of which only one game would make me consider buying the platform - GT5. Resistance was (IMHO) shite - too many explosions and you couldn't see what was going on. And the pad SUCKS - I find it really uncomfortable so it isn't good for an FPS for me. So cross off FPS - the 360 does it better. LittleBigPlanet is great fun with friends, but I don't think it is enough to make me want to buy the system. Sure, if I had one I'd probably get it. Final Fantasy? Hope it isn't going to be like 12 or I'll be bored shitless. I'm getting tired of the series now. Tekken sucks balls. I am not a huge fighting fan. I loved SF2 but Tekken is just too complex. Metal Gear is getting a bit stale. Eye of Judgement sat on our shelf for months because it is so DIRE. Um, Ratchet and Clank? Really? I'm not 12. That series does nothing for me. I liked Motorstorm. I liked the F1 game that came out on release. Shame they weren't on your list ;-) There just aren't enough decent stand-out exclusive titles for me. I would never buy a game for the PS3 over the 360, were I to have the choice. I like playing with my friends online - and most of them have a 360 as opposed to 3 who still have a PS3. Those who had a PS3 and sold them kept their 360. As I said before, I can't stand the pad - it feels like cheap crap. It is too light and it doesn't fit the hand well. And the last minute motion sensor is a joke. As for your sound point, might I suggest investing in a new TV? I have to turn my sound DOWN to play my Xbox - it is so much louder than my Freeview or any other input!
Oh god, thats how fucking Lost Planet was. Pissed me off. I like the 360 as a media center, but I wish it supported more files. The PS3 you can throw Linux on it but thats stupid, they should support shit like FLAC and MKV's. 360 can do WMA Lossless streaming which is cool but maybe I don't want to use that.
Here's my 2 cents for all it's worth. PS3 > 360 build quality. When I first unboxed my 360 I couldn't get over how cheap and plasticy it felt. 360 > PS3 pad. I love the 360 pad, so comfortable, I could hold it for hours . PS3 > 360 in exclusive games. Maybe it's just me but aside from Gears, Blue Dragon and Braid (which are all fantastic games I may add), there seems a void of exclusives. Were as the PS3 has MGS4, LBP, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Valkyria Chronicles, Ratchet and Clank etc and tons of original PSN games. 360 ≈ PS3 regarding being media centres. 360 has better organisation for an audio library, PS3 of course has blu-ray, 360 has netflicks (at least in the US), PS3 is nice and quiet, 360 is loud! and so on. 360 > PS3 for online, but for what I want out of an online experience the PS3 does me fine for free. I know what games my friends are playing, I can message and chat to them, that's enough for me. 360 > PS3 for price, but I got my PS3 for free . But things to consider are the ease of upgrading the HDD and the fact that it's a great blu-ray player. However if you're interested purely in gaming and nothing else, 360 gets you more bang for buck, just be sure to keep your receipt.
Microsoft doesn't care if you have a reciept. You just have to register your console. I don't get why they don't just toch all the old motherboards and give everyone jaspers. Wouldn't that end up saving them money in the long run?
Xbox 360? Plastic and cheap feeling? It's got a metal case..? I think it feels really solid, and no more 'cheap' feeling than any other games console. The games library is intense on the 360- a huge selection of top titles that can be had for next to no money whatsoever. The controller is a dream- the most comfy controller ever, next to the Gamecube. The whole 360 experience is fantastic, and as a new owner, I have been impressed through and through. The PS3 strikes me as having few exclusives worth my attention, and the controller is nearly exactly the same as from 1996- it was a slapdash design then and its a slapdash design now. I'd need someone to verify this, but I believe the PS3 can only display in 50hz on SDTVs which is a serious influencing factor on my purchase. Can anyone verify this? However, there is no way - no way - the PS3 will 'die'. It may 'finish' in third, but its obviously going to have a huge cult following from those loyal to the Playstation brand, and, as mentioned, those who believe it is a quality, luxury item above the 360. I just hope Sony will learn from these mistakes and listen to the complaints of the people who know best, the gamers.
I miss the old Xbox design, lol. I think one reason the 360 was made to look the way it is is because people LAN it up with them. At least it's easy to carry.
Ok retro, But just cause you pay for such stats doesn't mean there going to be accurate do to lack of skill by employees. I see quite a few dummies who say they work for a living but they can't even make my coffee properly! I have also used goverment stats which in some cases I know are warped. The goverment pays alot money to have those stats made, yet some of there findings are still laughable. Ah retro, The stat you got, weren't from NPN were they? were did you get them from? Also Parris, Where did you get this 1 billon xbox 360 recall from? and by the way Parris your post aren't too long I appreciate the content of most of your post and threads. THANKS! :icon_bigg :icon_bigg :icon_bigg
