PS3 Debug Test Station problem.

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  1. Mysticmaus

    Mysticmaus Active Member

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    Hi:)

    Just came into possesion of a PS3 Debug Test Station / Slim version!

    But...

    I found out that it has Debug Firmware 3.60 on it...:crying:
    And i tried to run homebrew with it , some work , most emu's etc don't..
    Error code > 80029567

    Now my questions are >

    - Does anybody know how to fix this?
    - Is it possible to revert back to 3.55 or 3.41 ?

    I know that it's impossible to downgrade from OFW 3.60 on a retail ps3 , but this is a debug firmware so maybe it's different.:rolleyes:
     
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  2. bob

    bob Robust Member

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    on ps3 test you can downgrade and upgrade to almost any firmware version
     
  3. Mysticmaus

    Mysticmaus Active Member

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    Well apparently not , I tried almost every firmware or CFW , It just won't accept it... , says that it's corrupted.

    Or maybe you know some trick I don't know;-)
     
  4. thelastuser

    thelastuser Peppy Member

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    I'll give you fifty bucks for it!

    But seriously you're probably trying to install retail firmware and custom firmware on it.

    Your second problem with homebrew is that many of them will be using syscalls that are added by custom firmware or patched in at runtime with the "jailbreak" exploit.

    that said I'll give you $200

    jk, but not really.
     
  5. Mysticmaus

    Mysticmaus Active Member

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    I understand what you are saying , and it's true.
    I tried all kinds of firmware , but no luck.

    I even tried to install a earlier debug version like 3.41 , but it still won't accept it.

    But the real problem is , I can't do much in Debug 3.60 so I need to go back:crying: somehow....
     
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    thelastuser Peppy Member

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    By default it can only go back to the original fw version it was flashed with.

    You have to understand with so many hw revisions the earlier the fw is the less models it supports.
     
  7. Mysticmaus

    Mysticmaus Active Member

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    Aha! , okay and do you know How to go back to the original FW ?:)

    Because when I'm back in a earlier version , from there I can upgrade to 3.55 , and 3.55 support almost all homebrew;-)
     
  8. mathieulh

    mathieulh Problem Solver

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    Homebrews will not run because they are signed with geohot's npdrm crappy signing tools (yes, I did mean that), which 3.56+ do not support for a lot of different reasons. You need homebrews to be fself, the best way for you is to grab the sources, compile them and fself them with the official sdk (which you should be a licensee in order to use in the first place) (Even if you had tools to decrypt npdrm selfs, geohot's tools pretty much fuck up the elf header so that's really a no go here)

    As to downgrading to 3.55, you need a special version of the 3.55 pup for debug which allows downgrading from 3.56+. Again if you are a licensee you can get it straight from the devnet. Otherwise there has not been any leaks of it.
     
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  9. Mysticmaus

    Mysticmaus Active Member

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    Hmm , I think nobody here is a Licensee of DevNet , so I guess I can't downgrade.... :crying:

    Okay , compiling is also chinese for me so this is getting difficult XD:rolleyes:
     
  10. Hellcat

    Hellcat Robust Member

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    Frankly, I hope it stays this way.
    Rebug caused enough damage, let the kiddies find other toys....


    And even IF someone around here would be a DevNet licensee, there is doubt he/she would just give (i.e. leak) said firmwares to you....


    That brings up the question what good a debuggingstation is in your hands and questions the reasons you got one for.


    I'll pick up on above mentioned $200 offer. I'll even pay PP fees, just send it over to me, I got actual use for it :)
     
  11. G0dLiKe

    G0dLiKe <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Well, try this:

    goto Debug Settings and switch System Update Debug to on, this should allow you to downgrade with official Sony update manager.

    If this is not working, try the option to copy your updat.pup to your internal hdd.

    If this is not working, try to downgrade via recovery menu.
     
  12. Hellcat

    Hellcat Robust Member

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    The first thing is a QA feature IIRC and will likely not be available on his console.

    The rest won't work for 3.55 or lower due to above stated reasons - unless you got said downgrade .PUP for 3.55.
     
  13. Mysticmaus

    Mysticmaus Active Member

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    @Hellcat

    I got this console purely for my collecting desires;-)

    Just trying some things out and learning on the way , maybe this is not such a bad time to start learning how to compile:)

    -----------

    I will try those things from the above posts.
     
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  14. Hellcat

    Hellcat Robust Member

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    Hmm, I certainly know *that* feeling.... it's gonna be my (financial) death one day, if I'm not carefull *lol* ;-)
     
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    I can find the Debug Settings menu but not the "System Update Debug" setting... , is that normal?:rolleyes:
     
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    G0dLiKe <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    yeah, no worries, this is indeed a qa thingy.
     
  17. Mysticmaus

    Mysticmaus Active Member

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    Ah okay.

    But this must really be a stupid question , what is QA feature IIRC :redface:?
     
  18. Hellcat

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    It's a special "mode of operation" used Sony internal.
    It enables some more options, like above mentioned Update Debug (which BTW, is a QA feature for retail consoles, as debugs are able to downgrade anyways).
     
  19. Mysticmaus

    Mysticmaus Active Member

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    Hmm , okay.

    So my console is able to downgrade but I don't have the correct UPDAT.PUP file for it , to get I have to be Licensee of DevNet wich is impossible , so in other words , I'm stuck:banghead:

    Well I guess i can always wait for some hacker to make homebrew and emu's for 3.60 :nod:

    Just one more question , you said that most homebrew is signed , why?
    Doesn't that make it harder to run on all firmwares?

    2 emus are working on my 3.60 Debug firmware , VICE and Gambatte , I guess those must be unsigned or something , right?:rolleyes:
     
  20. urisma

    urisma <B>Site Supporter 2012</B>

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    Homebrew is signed so it's actually executable. The exploit found (for 3.55 at least) is a signing one, allowing for homebrew code to be signed in such a way that the PS3 thinks it's real signed Sony code.

    I believe that on 3.41 it doesn't work that way. I wasn't around for the dongle stuff so I'm not sure exactly how all that works, but I do know that they use a heap overflow exploit which then allows the execution of unsigned code. I think most 3.41 payloads edit out the signature checks for elfs (or selfs or whatever) so unsigned code, rather than pseudo retail signed code (like for 3.55) can be run.
     
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