Apparently, since PD won't get GT5 out until late 2008 (plus delays), they're releasing this instead: Gran Turismo HD: Classic is what adopts the GT:HD playable demo at E3 and meant to showcase the online aspect. A race is done with about 20 cars. Apparently this version starts with no cars or courses. You download a car for 50 - 100 yen (0.43 - 0.85$) and a course for 200 - 500 yen (1.71 - 4.26$). Over 750 cars and 50 cars are available for purchase. Users can define race events freely and can hold online race events by themselves. So if you want the full game, ie GT4 in HD, but you want everything you worked so hard to unlock in GT4, it's going to cost you approximately $850 for the content, plus the price of the media. Bargain.
Does anyone actually care about that? Gran Turismo sucks. Driving simulator, oh wow. You mean instead of driving a car, I can pretend to drive a car!? Wow that's amazing. Oh but you say you are racing and driving at high speeds? Well that sucks, you cannot really go high speeds and race in any way that is fun. Driving a bunch of cars to see who's goes faster is boring as hell. Fun racing is when the tracks are varied, the phsyics are altered for fun gameplay, and possibly weapons are involved. Really, a driving simulator screams retardedness. Now a flight simulator atleast is something completely different to what you'd do everyday. So anyway, I hate GT with a passion. I never understood why people like it. I tried it and it sucks ass. BurnOut, now there's a racing game.
This is just lame. I prefer to play GT4 in 480i in my crappy 14' TV. :dance: You comment seemed a little biased. I'm not gonna try to convince you of anything but i think you missed the point of the game. It tries to simulate races. To simulate an experience of driving exotic cars and historic cars, plus famous racing cars like the Le Mans prototypes. Of course it won't be the same thing, but at least it's something. Car enthusiasts like me, have the opportunity to setup the car almost like the real one and test/race them. If you like to mess with your real car, then you'll like GT. (or Forza, or GTR,... ) I agree with you about Burnout. It's a fantastic game. But it's a totally differente genre : - Racing - Arcade - Anyway, stop the hate :thumbsup:
Playit before talking. and i mean play it for long (reach prototypes cars at least) and you'll understand. Those races can take your breath off, and no other game can do so. GT lasts, burnout withers and die quickly. i've played both and for LONG. and reached the end of both, now i can still play GT, but burnout is tasteless.
Simply a matter of opinion I suppose as I feel exactly the opposite. The Burnout series has evolved. GT has stayed quite the same. Given the choice between GT:HD and Burnout Revenge, I'll go with Burnout any day. -hl718
Years from now, when we talk about the fall of sony (like we do today with Atari, SEGA, etc..) this game will be considered the point when sony went completely fucking nuts. $850 for a game? WTF? it should come with a free PS3-HDMI for that price! And even then the game would be $250 bucks:-( And we though ninty was arrogant for trying to sell a recycled NGC for $250...
Jonny and karsten, it is just my opinion. I'm sure the game does what it intends/promises. I just have no interest in what that is. I don't work on real cars. I have no interest in cars or working on them. I don't care how fast a car goes, stuff about the parts in it, etc. It does me no good to know any of that, nor do I care about it because I find it boring. karsten, if I played Grand Turismo for along time you'd be reading about me in the paper with the number dead in the headline. :O I just really don't care for a driving simulator. I respect that other people like the series, and I would buy it that it's acheiving what they promise. But again if I want to play a racing game I don't want it to be realistic. I don't want it to be so in depth because again I don't care what parts are in the damn thing. I'd like to pick a color, a vehicle with different cool names and a few key stats, maybe even weapons. I want to make those 200mph hairpin turns. I want to smash or blow up fellow racers. Driving a car in a circle for 3445645 laps is not appealing to me.
I undestand your opinion, don't worry. :thumbsup: Just tried to explain how Burnout and GT are different types of games.
Ive said on a few boards over the years that gran turismo is so good at what it does if sony charged 500$ for it it would still be worth it. Mabye they read those post. LOL sorrryy. Rly, if you have a nice wheel a big fat LCD and a decent cockpit and you are a car guy like me. GT4 is all you need to put in your PS2, ever. Its a game that will still be good in 15 years. I am pretty much anti mirco payments, But look at it this way. You can taylor make your gran turismo game. Im into hondas, bad. I eat and sleep them. Whats cooler than having like a honda, or ford, or nissan edition of GT. So. My GTHD if i get it will have all the hondas, from a civic to a NSX and the open wheel (indy) cars. mabye a Z06 and a few other to take care of my V8 cravings. Im a nintendo worshiper, but sony has got me when it comes to GT, its outta my hands.
Sounds more like the specialized demo versions of Gran Turismo 3 than a full game. I mean, if I want a Nissan Edition of GT, I'll pop in the Nissan demo. Why should I have to pay (way more than a full game cost) for content that is equivalent to a demo? -hl718
Yeah your right. Im not being sarcastic but why should i have to pay is the wrong guestion IMO. If racecar drivers use gran turismo to practice racetracks, driving schools use it, its obviously worth the 50$ they charge for it. And if its to much to pay, then dont pay it. But again this a die hard gear head talking, id personally like to see gran turismo go up in price, it would have a sort of (men from the boys) effect. I almost agree with sony, gaming is ghetto right now, just becuase all the money is the mainstream. You can build a PC that will play any game for like 500$.There are no more mega systems like the neo geo. The whole thing has made me a bit jaded on games.Im looking for an excuse to buy some shit that not many can afford.
Gaming is by no means in the ghetto. Having an elitist attitude about gaming is stupid, simple as that, this industry started as nothing more than toys(and really, it still is). You should buy games because you wan't to enjoy or collect them, not becase people can't afford it or to just to look wealthy. Mega systems? If you mean cost then the PS3 is fairly close, although maybe that's too "mainstream and ghetto" to be "mega". And seperating the "men from the boys" has nothing to do with the intial cost of the system, it has to do with skill. If anything, raising the cost will limit the market to rich assholes and people who are willing to make some sacrifices for just for one game(which does not make them "hardcore") As far as I'm concered, money has nothing to do with wether one is a "hardcore" gamer or not, it's dedication. Take a look at cosole collecting(this is assembler). Lots of people have the money to buy any system and game they wish(and they do), but for the most part, only the most dedicated get their hands on proto's, dev kits and the most obscure of the obscure, all because they take the time and effort to track down these rarities. Just look at all the backlash towards the PS3's cost from "hardcore" gamers, it's not so much an issue of money as it is of principal. Sorry if I sound a bit abrasive, or wen't on a tangent there. It's just that I'm sick of these "I'm too hR4dxcorexx 4 u" gamers. Just do what you wan't and let everyone else have their fun without getting into stupid debates on how ikaruga is a disappointment or how all japanese game industry doesn't suck like the sequelfest rehash franchise US industry. Haha, guess I wen't on another little rant...
Hey, if you want to pay a few hundred dollars just to have a game on the PS3 that is identical in content to GT4 on the PS2, with the singular exception of higher quality textures and more detailed models, more power to you. Me? I look at that and say "You're not offering me any new content, but you want me to pay 10X the price (or more) just for the honor of playing?" Screw that. I'll just stick with the $50 copy of GT4. If you want me to pay out 10X as much for a game, it had better be one hell of a game. Otherwise the only ones playing are going to be the idiots with too much money to burn. -hl718
If there's one thing i know, its that no car's driving can compare to a fast go-kart. I' d rather spend 850$ on go karting or Formula 3 than sitting in front of a screen
Why do all the odd numbered GT tend to be lamer than the even number ones? GT2 and 4 were awesome compared to 1 and 3. However, I thought this GT game was actually THE GT5...
For the record i do collect, not devs but everythign else. Gran turismo is pretty much the only game that i feel that way about. But back when i was 13 and the neo geo came out and i had to daydream about it and play my TG16. It was fine with me. I didnt get mad about it. It gave me somthing to work for and i loved my TG 16 no less. Now im grown and went from staying at my friends house poor to doing well and it did make me happy i could load up FEAR on launch day crank the settings up and play with some mature people instead of server after server of CS type jackasses. And im sorry if me wanting to buy some exspensive shit gets in the way of you enjoying ikaruga. Its a good game and i still play it.But i need somthing to spend my piles and piles of cash on and wiping my ass with it is such a waste. And none of this has anything to do with USA vs japan developers, IMO japan has all but vanished, cept nintendo. And the japan (industry) is just as bad with the rehashes. What exacly has japan put out recently? Nothing. Woohoo GTHD and Wii for the wiiiin!!! Cant wait!!
