I don't think removing join date/post count would help the forums. My routine on the site is to hit "New Posts" and just scroll until I see a thread that looks interesting. So I'm kind of all over the place. I rarely see members boasting about post counts or join dates. Not like on other forums anyways. I personally don't think it's a big deal but this thread is trying to make it into one. EDIT: On a lighter note, I thought this thread was going to be about beer. That's why I clicked on it. haha
I agree with Borman and also, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I find on forums with post counts and join dates less arguments are likely to kick off because if an established member comes along and intervenes and advises the offending party, they are far more likely to back down. Whereas if we're all the same it just turns into a "who can flame the loudest" slanging match until an actual mod comes along with a ban hammer. Lastly, I kinda like the whole e-penis posting count, mainly because it makes me feel like I belong somewhere. Even when for a whole year the only access to games I had was on my iPhone while I travelled, I still hung out here and contributed. It's the only forum I've ever fully dedicated myself to. Fuck it. Take my post count away...I'll stick it in manually every post! Just you try and stop me! (please don't ban me :crying
LeGit, while I feel what you say, I must agree with the others on the marketplace thing, and while you might say that there's a feedback forum that would solve that issue, unfortunately it won't, as lots of users don't leave feedback after transactions. I have left feedback to tons of users who did not leave feedback on my thread, and moderators can't be following each and every user to tell them to leave feedback :/
Not really practical when some threads, the Geist Force ones at present especially, have been getting lots of posts by the same few people, their ability to join in other discussions would be massively diminished. LeGIt in particular seems to be the biggest poster there as he appears to be doing the most work but as a moderator by dint of his status he'd need to be able to post more than5 times a day or 20 times a week across the forum as a whole as part of his 'job' thus throwing up all sorts of problems with us lowly proles moaning about hierarchical tier systems and the like.
It's broken though - all these extra rights and classes don't get restored after a temp ban, they have to be manually added each which is a lot of work too which means have to limit temp bans even more (even when people deserve them) as it is not worth the effort of unfucking all of the classes afterwards. Also Tchoin I'm still witing on 3 feedbacks too How about this then: hidden by default, but the option for those that care to tick and unhide?
thats not a good enough resign to change it because it DOESN'T affect everyone and sounds more like a bug in VB then anything else stop trying to 1984 us its really fucking annoying make us all the same no ones important no one should stand out from anyone else and then give us 2 mins of hate each day by dividing us on this issue there is no resign to take people identity no matter what it may be insignificant to some but once you loose a freedom like identity its almost imposable to get it back
1984 you? lol The current system is the 1984 system with a clear heirachy if anything, based on dates by chance and arbitrary numbers to boot. I'm member 20, you're member 60511, my lower, older number does not make me superior, but people somehow think it does. My day one join date should not grant me any extra psychological privileges over any newer user such as yourself, but if people see it, then they do it but if they don't see it, they can live just fine without it. It's ok if you prefer it your way and by your logic you can be unimportant instead of equal, but post count and join date are NOT part of anyone's identity. No one is saying you lose your identity. No one is even saying people are not allowed to stand out, but they will stand out for the right reasons, not arbitrary numbers. People's name and personality are their identity and that is what should make them stand out, not how recently they joined nor how much they have posted.
But I haven't seen that expressed in the forum, maybe I just miss it? To be honest I never thought about these things until you created this thread, too. Why would people somehow think it does (being superior) because of lower number (or join date)? Is member number only visible to moderators? I never noticed it if not. But if yes, then how can you yourself say people use it to somehow think it does, if they can't see it?
Juste you may not think like it, but others do. If you click on a user's profile, their member number is in their url. You are member 1621. You can also see this if hovevering over their name, but when the join date does the same function, the member number is probably overlooked.
I read "there is no resign to take people identity" checked that posters first language is likely English based on location, and couldn't understand what the hell it was supposed to mean. Then I said it out loud and it sounds kinda like "reason" then finally understood the sentence... hope your using some speech to text software man lol
The only problem I see is with the marketplace. Some other forum have a feedback system integrated into the forum, so in addition to the post count you see the user feedback much like on ebay. When you click on the feedback number you see a page with detailed feedback from the member. It's like that on http://shmups.system11.org/ If such a system could be implemented here, I guess it would not create any problem to stop showing the post count and join date. It would also make life easier when you want to look at the feedback of someone or leave feedback instead of searching in the feedback forum.
There are 60k members (in reference to that 60511 dude post of yours)? Wow, where are they all. The members list only has just over 9k. Or am I being dumb. Deleted accounts perhaps?
Sometimes when ASSEMbler is in a bad mood he won't just ban you he will delete all record of you lol (maybe even cancel your CC's and Social Security ID ) At some point around the time of the XeDK launch a lot of people joined and a lot got banned, but also I think a lot of bots signed up too. There also have been the occasional accidental WTFPWN and I think some inactive accounts also got pruned, but once a Member ID has been issued it doesn't really get reissued, it just goes to the next number in line - many of the 0-19 before me have vanished sadly and others have been inactive for weeks, months or even years AntiPasta for example was a cool chap and moderator, but his account vanished and he had to start over but only posts on occasion.
In the early days (first few years, anyway) Assembler used to prune accounts that were inactive. That was how prominent member accounts like Antipasta and GSL got wiped.
Since I've had more posts than anyone here for the last 5 years or more I said no Seriously though, I don't think it's a good idea at all. I want to know who I'm dealing with and post counts and join dates help me with this. I don't think anyone looks at their own post numbers and thinks, "ooh, aren't I so great" or at least no one that I know does. Yakumo
You are discounting the fact that post count, join date, reputation, etc. ARE part of a person's identity and their association with the website/community. I understand that your moderation workflow might suck for certain things, but that's not a reason to change the entire atmosphere of the site.
I'm neutral about the posts and date thing, but as a teacher of Methods of Scientific Research, your poll makes me cringe until the bones in my jaw make funny noises. Talk about biased, man...