Questions for those that know about doing SNES Rerpoduction games!

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  1. Vosse

    Vosse Well Known Member

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    Alright, thanks man i'll do that now.


    I'm gonna get a new Soldering Iron for the new chips. When I go to put the new chips on, I can probably try to desolder the 2nd PCB from the original and take some pictures.

    These contact points though are really small. So I don't know exactly what size tip for the Heating element would be recommended for this.
     
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  2. Helder

    Helder Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Get a desoldering iron with Pump Bulb from Radio Shack like $15 and it will be real easy to desolder the chip and board, that's what I use and I'm done in no time with little effort.
     
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  3. Vosse

    Vosse Well Known Member

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    Well, I may send it off to Bad. So he would be able to take it apart and document it with pictures and whatnot :D
     
  4. Helder

    Helder Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    I hope there are some info on the PCB and how the rom is written once he gets his hands on it.
     
  5. Vosse

    Vosse Well Known Member

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    Well I sent it off to'em earlier. Once he gets his hands on it he may be able to help with that. :p
     
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  6. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    There is nothing new to be gained. The PCB implements the wiring of interfacing a 27c322 with the SNES using 2x 257s and 1x 139. The PCB contains no secrets. Besides 257s I think 245s can be used. Again, there is no secret or mystery behind the pcb. You don't even need the PCB, it's just better and more sturdy to have one. I hope people don't use these chips to make SNES bootlegs. It'd be such a waste of memory chips that are no longer made. Besides, soon there will be user programmable cheap flash cartridges for SNES. Using all new PCB and memory chips.
     
  7. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    I agree with MottZilla - the wiring is public, the only reason there is any confusion about how the rom is written is just a slight difference of possible wiring. If you were building your own, you could switch the endianness with a couple of wires.
     
  8. plc268

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    I'm betting that the seller on ebay bought a ton of repros off a user on NintendoAge named jjrepro, who is selling snes repros at $25 each. The addon board looks exactly like the one that jjrepro uses, and he looks to be trying to profit off his repros and selling them for more on ebay.

    Here's a link to his post: http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?StartRow=1&catid=6&threadid=100578
     
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  9. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    This is infact a known issue. People will buy reproductions made by someone that doesn't charge a whole lot to do it, and then try to resell it to make huge profits usually by making no mention that the product is not legitimate, and also by claiming it is "rare". Uninformed gamers will see them on ebay and have no idea what it is and not suspect that they are being conned.
     
  10. Vosse

    Vosse Well Known Member

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    Yeah. Have seen it going on like that on Ebay for years.

    and also: Yeah this seems to be the guy on Nintendo Age. The inconsistent label designs match perfectly.


    There needs to be higher quality labels for repro games, being consistent with the way each company designed their labels around the time that game was released. (For example. Any game NOT published by Nintendo themselves should NOT have the Red Band on the upper right. All 3rd Party licensed games had to use a Purple band instead. Which is an extremely common mistake among repro labels. Gold players choice label was only given to one somewhat 3rd party game. Super Star Wars)

    Here are some of the labels I made for my DQ1&2 Repro (HQ source material is basically nonexistent. So that certainly doesn't help)
    https://i.minus.com/iF0jd4vCl5AdX.png (to be similar to the Japanese label)
    https://i.minus.com/iYVftRhUdQUed.png
    https://i.minus.com/icDgTyUWH9iWP.png
    https://i.minus.com/ixnlhMWuqFxla.png
    https://i.minus.com/ibh5w2QTcQtdgu.png
     
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  11. Vosse

    Vosse Well Known Member

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    Alright here's the finished product, big THANKS to Bad_Ad84 for helping me out with reprogramming EPROMs

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    Label is a potential placeholder until I get my other labels I designed in the mail and decide whether to keep this one or not. (Because is an older revision of the label I designed that I had printed by a different person. So I used this first label as feedback for sizing in design)
     
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