Quitting smoking

Wheelaa - that sounds frickin nasty, I can't believe anyone could do it. Although a good friend of mine did something silmilar and maybe less fatal!

Get a pack of fags, then get some stuff you use to get kids to stop biting their nails. (tastes like shit apparently) coat the ends of the fags in it and everytime you smoke the taste will make you cry and gag. I personally think all you need is something to mess up your smoking regime and then a bit of will power to finish it off. It's a nasty habit and I'm glad I quit ages ago, I hate to think of all the people I probably pissed off by smoking around them.

 

Bitter aloes (spelling).

 

fag is slang for a gay person for all non-americans

what can I say? I am amused easily.

 

With the exception of dropping the ash on your foot while driving, burning it, causing one to jerk up, hit the steering wheel and fly off the road, I just don't buy it. The only way I ever would is to see that happen in person, which is very unlikely to happen.

 

Why is it so hard to believe? how do you go about your life believing other things you have not seen in person?

That guy who died of cannabis poisoning up in North Wales was an extreme case (smoked weed constantly for about 30 years) but shows that it can be harmfull. Ok, if you had never smoked it ever, and had one spliff once in your entire life, I can accept it will probably do bugger all to you, but what about all the other long term weed smokers who have had problems? I suffered terrible memory problems when I was smoking weed, and I was on it a lot. Not a "weekend smoker" like most of the advocates for weed, I was smoking a lot of resin every day, for about 4 years. I quit as it was also making me very moody, and it took a good few months before I felt properly "clean"

In the US, you mostly smoke grass yeah? in Europe it's mostly resin/skunk, which probably has different effects in the long term, as you are changing the way you are using it (chemically and physically)

You can just keep the jar, and sniff the putrid contents every time you want a cigarette, that's also an effective method... you won't lose your stomach lining in the process either...

 

1: B/c I smoked grass for years
2: I know a shitload of weed smokers
3: I've never heard about this anywhere besides maybe Refer Madness or other propoganda

I will not deny that marijuana causes short-term memory loss, and in some cases anxiety and depression. I will also go as far as to say that these are not terrible things. I just don't believe that smoking one dooby will cause psychosis for a person that does not already have psychotic tendencies or some other chemical imbalance.

As for long term. I think constantly consuming anything for 30 years will do harm.... starting w/ junk food.

 

Well I've certainly missed this debate. Personally, I think that tobacco and alcohol should have been made illegal years ago.

They're both filthily discusting, highly addictive drugs that cause no-end of health problems. But then, in a perfect world all drugs of all sorts would be totally legal. You really wanna smoke brown? Fine, go to the shop and buy 1/10g. Silly, yeah it is. But ppl are still gonna smoke smack no matter what you do. Only way to stop it is to eradicate the opium poppy from the face of the planet. It's like the Prohibition. You make alcohol illegal and what happens? Al Capone becomes king of New York in 2 years, that's what. You make something illegal that people want, and someone will be there to supply it. It's down to governmental control, and the control of people. I'm not at all saying that we should all be getting coked-up, but we should be allowed to choose, within certain limits. Coke is crap, crack is evil and smack just defies words. But then, Absynthe is 85% pure alcohol. Do it properly on a spoon with sugar and you will hallucinate. Yeah, that should really be illegal too. I can't legally take acid (which I don't like anyhow), but I can drink Absynthe????? Hmmm.

As for the pot argument. Oh dear, where do we begin? Simple as, there is nothing wrong with dope. Quite simply, either alcohol and tobacco should be illegal as of now, either that or legalise weed. Alcohol is only legal because of events in history. Had those Monks discovered that it was the boiling of the water, and not the actual beer making process that made water safe, I'm sure we wouldn't be drinking alcohol as much now.


Now some info:
The resin you get is absolute filth. Trust me. You really don't wanna know what they put in resin to fill it out. But let's just say, in a bar (9oz) of rocky, there's about 1 - 1.5oz of pure resin. The rest is filler crap. It's nothing like smoking pure resin (bubble hash). Rocky gives you headaches, mood swings, tastes like shite and doesn't give a proper 'high', it mongs you.

The weed you guys get in the States is shite. Sorry, but from what I've seen & smoked, it is. I'll show you some proper weed: AK47, PowerPlant, Critical Mass, White Russin etc. All with THC levels of at least 14%, and CBD levels of 4%+. The weed you guys get in the US is about 5%THC. lol. My weed would knock you into next week, tbh. However, I've sort of become immune to a certain level, and I'm easily on 5+ Js a night.

But to make a plant that grows naturaly on every continent illegal is silly. Especially as the plant is there to be smoked. It doesn't flower, all it does is grow buds. And reproduce, and grow more buds..... Buds that are there for no other reson than to be smoked. THC (the stuff that gets you high) is interesting too. It consists of nothing but Carbon, Hydrogen and Oxygen.

Interestingly, hemp is also a very strong fibre. Ever wonder why your T-shirt is cotton? Cos it wears out, so you have to buy a new one. Now if you'd brought a hemp t-shirt, you'd still be wearing it, good as new, 5yrs later. But that doesn't make anyone any real money.....

And just to finish:
Tradition in India maintains that the gods sent man the Hemp plant so that he might attain delight, courage, and have heightened sexual desires. When nectar or Amrita dropped down from heaven, Cannabis sprouted from it. Another story tells how, when the gods, helped by demons, churned the milk ocean to obtain Amrita, one of the resulting nectars was Cannabis. It was consecrated to Shiva and was [the godess] Indra’s favourite drink.
After the churning of the ocean, demons attempted to gain control of Amrita, but the gods were able to prevent this seizure, giving Cannabis the name Vijaya (“victoryâ€￾) to commemorate their success. Ever since, this plant of the gods has been held in India to bestow supernatural powers on its users.

See, we're allowed to smoke weed: Shiva and Indra (GODS!!!) say so....:icon_bigg

 

I think they generally shoot it, but is something I never tried.

Not if you fork up the money, or live in Hawaii. Since there's no Mexico nearby the stuff in Hawaii is actually good. Ever heard of Maui Waui? There's kind bud all throughout America, but it is pricey. Even in Texas, a quarter bag of really good smoke was well over $100... hardly affordable for a broke ass student, which I was at the time.

 

amen to that

 

StarWolf raised an interesting, though offtopic point:

What's the legal status of absinthe both in the US and Europe? Though I have no desire to try it, the stuff fascinates me in the same morbid fashion as nuclear weaponry.

 

Not too sure on the actual legal status. But there's only one bar in the whole city that sells it. And I only know of one shop.

As for trying it, don't.... really. I don't like tripping, and this was definately not good stuff. However, when you're 17 and doing daft things with mates....

As for $100+ for a q of good bud, blimey. It's £35 here. Gotta feel sorry for those poor souls on Jersey though. The missus's cousin lives there, and it's rather hard to get things on the island. Hence resin goes for £30 1/8, £160oz and weed is like gold dust. On the odd occasion it shows up its about £280+ oz. Mental.

 

From all I've read about absinthe the "hallucinogenic" effects is a combination of myth, half-assed speculation, and propaganda.

As for legality, It is illegal in the US but is pretty much like having Cuban cigars here. Unless you're trying to smuggle in a truckload the chances of being prosecuted are pretty slim. At most if you try to bring some back it will be confiscated and you might have to pay a small fine. That's only if it is recognized since most people here have no clue what it is. It is legal in the EU as long as the thujone levels (which is what supposedly makes you go crazy) doesn't go past a certain level.

A good article on absinthe.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.11/absinthe.html

 

Well, even ecstacy was legal until about 20 years ago (not even that) so if people don't know about it, it can very well be extremely powerful and legal. Thanks for the link A. Snow. I'm well passed that shit, but that looks to be an interesting read.

StarWolf: The higher up you go, the more expensive weed gets. In Texas, it's dirt cheap. It's usually crap, but it will get you high. The kind bud is probably cheaper now that I think about it, but this was back in the 90's. Something I just don't have to worry about anymore.

 

I think Absinthe is legal over here. In fact iirc it was never illegal per se..you just couldn't import it, and genuine absinthe can only be made abroad (like genuine champagne say). Its a shit drink, but a lot purer than it used to be. It used to cause havoc to the nervous system of regular drinkers of it (read alcoholics), and give them exceeedingly bad shakes (necessitating the tie arm sling manoevre). You can just make it yourself with pernod and wormwood, still shit though, and the hallucinogenic stuff is basically bullshit. Even when we added mushrooms, hawaiin baby woodrose seeds, datura extract and other naughties. (10 Ganeshes..that's when you see air:nod: )

Know what you mean about Jersey prices. A good mate is from there and he loves coming over.

(as for £35..poor you;-) )

 

Absinthe is illegal in the states from what I gather, but there are plenty of places to get it online.

 

Poor me? No, rich me.... Anyhow, 35/40quid for a quarter of AK is damn good. 3 to 4 weeks drying, winner of the Cannabis Cup in Dam for 2yrs, about the strongest & nicest tasting green you can get, simple as. The old White Russian ain't bad either - Ak47 crossed with White Widow.

And the Absinthe we were doing was ancient foreign shit we found in my mate's Dad's cabinet. And we were doing it properly, with a spoon, sugar and heat. Alcohol doesn't agree with me, and that certainly didn't.

But even so, Goldslager, Sambucca and Aftershock are still vicious. Why you need drinks that strong I don't know. But then, Stella Artois is potent shit, and what I used to drink before I stopped. Round here, Stella is known as 'Wife Beater'.

''Pint of Wife Beater pls Barman''. Is this a national thing?

And if you want expensive, stupid green, try some 'connesoir' weed. Get some bud and bury it for a year or 2. Dig it up and try it. You've just lonst several hours and never been so leathered in you life, yes? It seems to change over time. It gets 100% dry and starts to mature. Trust me, you will experience time-slips and experience proper stonedness. Crazy, mental shit. So, why don't many people know of this stuff? Well it's like wine buffs, with vintage wines and stuff. Plus I can get £45+ for an 1/8 of this stuff and £300 for an oz. And it's not the most easily available weed to get either. Unless you know the correct people..............

 

You do know that you're bumping a thread that's hasn't had any new posts in over 8 years right? Requesting thread lock.

 

And thus, Vould begins his quest for 50 posts so he can sell in the marketplace