REAL job offer (WANTED) for internet business development.

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  1. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Hey guys,

    I'm really hoping to bring the cordiality and friendship I have with many here to a fruition.

    I'm looking for people that are able to create an website an has experience with scripts, like search engines and databases.

    I also need someone that could be able to make the interaction between mass e-mail systems and the site database.

    It would also be needed someone that could be able to create a blog like space but it must be totally original, nothing like ready to go templates.



    I rather have someone with experience and with prices in mind before starting discussing it.
    I also need someone that can take paypal as a primary payment system.

    The first thing would be the creation but it will probably result in maintaining the project in long therm.

    I can't discuss much more of it openly, so PM if you have the skills and the time for it.
     
  2. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    Your best bet would probably be to use a CMS (Drupal, Wordpress etc.) and theme it yourself (by which I mean have someone do it, if you can't personally). You'll more than likely find plugins to do everything you want, but if not, you can have one coded. It's easier to start from a CMS than start to scratch build. The main customization then is just to have a theme designed.
     
  3. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    I have already worked with ready to go sites and themes.

    The thing is I need scripts to interact with other sites and build a database on my own server.
    The database should build statistics.
    I need to integrate a forum or user feedback system with it all without having another site for it. Nothing like "click here for the forum".

    This is a big project.
     
  4. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    All achievable with any decent CMS. I didn't say use a ready-to-go theme, I said use the CMS and have someone design a custom theme. A theme is just "this goes there, that goes there, this is going to be that colour, this graphic will be used here.... and let's make it resize for small devices" ;)

    Any CMS already has a database. You just add items to it. In fact, any CMS already has the facility to create forms and enter information into the database. Interacting with other sites usually depends on the other sites - you might need an API from the other site. And, once again, a forum is built into any decent CMS.

    I would suggest getting a book on a CMS such as Drupal and seeing what it can do. Once you've read it, you'll realize it's exactly what you need. Well, if you can't do it yourself, you need a developer and a designer, but it's a good idea to use a pre-existing framework. And you'll save thousands of dollars.

    http://www.governing.com/news/technology/Why-Big-Government-Sites-Run-Drupal-.html
    http://isthissitebuiltwithdrupal.com/http://www.whitehouse.gov
    http://isthissitebuiltwithdrupal.com/http://www.energy.gov
    http://isthissitebuiltwithdrupal.com/http://www.georgia.gov

    https://drupal.org/case-studies
    http://isthissitebuiltwithdrupal.com/http://www.mtv.co.uk/
    http://isthissitebuiltwithdrupal.com/http://www.cartoonnetwork.de/
    http://isthissitebuiltwithdrupal.com/http://www.stuff.tv/

    Not to mention major websites using Drupal for parts of their sites, e.g. Twitter, FedEx, Yahoo!

    And here's a (slightly backwards) example of site integration:

    http://www.drupalshowcase.com/drupal-showcase/property-place

     
  5. Tatsujin

    Tatsujin Officer at Arms

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    About how big is it?
     
  6. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    Joomla is an excellent cms that works with r2g templates.
     
  7. PSPdemon

    PSPdemon Peppy Member

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    Let me fix that post...

    Okay all is well now.
     
  8. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    @Retro

    When you start a company you can't do it all yourself. I know there must be Java tutorials everywhere but I'm not going to learn Java or other things.
    The main reasons I didn't went straight to a company that offers the ready to go work is that I'm looking for people that would be willing to work for me, or even if this goes well be my partner.

    @ Tatsujin

    Really big but we need to start small (for obvious reasons).
    If this works out, my idea is to provide a full time job to anyone that might want to go along.

    At first I need someone that might want to build it and get payed for it's services. If this works out, there will be monthly payments.

    Here's the kind of site I want to build:
    http://www.comparegames.com.br/

    But there are several things not available there that I want to implement.
    This site has 280k fans of Facebook :)

    So the idea is to go over that.
     
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  9. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    Anybody who will build it for you will do the same thing, find or buy a commercial use friendly template and use a cms.

    A friend built a website similar to that and did so. Her employer wanted to be able to quickly look up opposing companies and compare the prices they offered to show that they were undercutting the competition. She used Joomla as her CMS, because it's free,FOSS and secure. Then she paid for a r2g template from somewhere that she was able to use with it.

    If you don't have time to set this up (it seems you dont, and or lack the knowledge), i suggest you find somebody who does and just give them the $$$ for any fees incurred aswell as a payment for doing it.
     
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  10. bigsexyolli

    bigsexyolli Gutsy Member

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    hey

    if you don't want to go with a standard cms, something like symfony 2 could be the way to go. It might mean more work in the beginning, but it will pay off in the end.

    drupal & co are great for static solutions, but as soon as you have a lot of dynamic content, it could get slow.

    cheers
     
  11. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    Why on Earth would you need to know Java?

    I'll say this again... to interface with other sites, you need PERMISSION from them and probably their APIs. You then put that information into your website.... and a CMS is a great way to do that!

    Here, for example, is the Amazon API:

    https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/advertising/api/detail/main.html

    Read the terms - they're very specific.

    Regardless of whether you do it yourself or get someone else to build it for you, it's best to have an understanding of what's happening.

    Anyway, just go to one of those sites where you advertise what you want done and people place their bids... then you get that Indian guy to do it for his super cheap price ;)
     
  12. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    It was an example, I was going to do another one with a car mechanics but I left it out of my reply.


    The thing is, as I said before, I'll quote Cyantist:


    I need to focus on other things, specially on how to run a marketing campaign on Adwords and things like that.

    I understand your POV about knowing a little of what's going on but that would come with the people I'm looking to hire.
    Doing everything by yourself, is proved to be a short term journey.

    Not sure why you would be against hiring people.
    I wounder that you only make your sandwiches and never go to Mc Donald's or any other food franchise, LOL.
     
  13. itchy

    itchy Guest

    PM me with details.

    I know a software engineer who worked in web development for 5 years..i know, you're project probably don't need an engineer but he can probably do your stuff very quickly.


    It's up to you
    ;)
     
  14. beepboop

    beepboop <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Not really.
     
  15. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    I'm not against hiring people. Every time I've said you OR THE PERSON YOU HIRE need to do this....

    You don't listen, so I can't work with you. Good luck - as I said, try those sites where you go to hire people.

    p.s. Of course I make my own sandwiches. They're fresher, cheaper, healthier and I know what is in them. Why the fuck would I go anywhere else? ESPECIALLY McDonald's. What would you rather have? A nice, healthy, tasty sandwich... or processed shit?
     
  16. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    So tell me how ham is made if it's not processed meat, unless you kill your own pigs.

    Anyway, this was a job offer thread. I would expect the people who would work with me had the knowledge you were trying to teach so as I said your point is moot.
     
  17. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    In the UK you can go to the butchers and buy ham by the lb. The only processing it has is being cooked, and you can even buy it uncooked.
     
  18. Serantes

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    my two cents :

    i started my own company 2 years ago.

    fortunally i managed to source 100k euros to make a prototype, my project involved hardware and web software, i am not going to discuss it, but i will give you some hints based on my experience :

    offer part of your company to someone that you dont know or to an employee is a big mistake, employees come and go. if you give an small portion of your company to the first employee, he may left and when you really need to sell hald of it to a partner that has something your really need (money, market position, ...) you will be under minority .... big mistake

    seccond : you need money to make what you want to do, good coders already have a job and with bad ones you are wasting your time, if you pay with penauts, you will have monkeys, you will ending wasting your time and money ( did this mistake and others mistakes ...)

    third : advertise on internet is not cheap, get money or you will loose your time, think that the most important moment in a company is when users stop bien users and pass to be customers, this happens when they decide to spend money on your site, dont expect cloning this website, get users esay and sell it to google, this is not going to happen ...

    ao final advice : make a good bussiness plan where you show how you are going to make money and source money, or start learning php cause you will not find a good coder that will do this for free as the ones that can do that already have a job and not much free time to waste, noob cooders is something you dont want for an startup.

    Alex
     
  19. Serantes

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    sorry for the bad spelling, damn ipad ...
     
  20. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    I really enjoyed your opinion, thanks for stepping up and posting it.

    I have a question for you since you are already in business.

    You said you made your company out of the blue, that's not what I have in mind at the moment.
    I want to ask your opinion on the affiliate business.

    How do you see it on today's online world?
    Do you have any experienced with that?
     
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