REAL job offer (WANTED) for internet business development.

Yup, a guy here who I've spent a lot of time working with on his website spends a LOT of money on marketing. Like £10,000. Per month. Every month. His site WILL be the one you click on first when you search for that field, though. It's the sort of money I'd expect to be in the marketing budget for a "find the cheapest supplier" site, certainly. One such site in the UK has the following in their annual report:

The latest Annual Accounts submitted to Companies House for the year up to 30/11/2012 reported 'cash at bank' of £187,635, 'liabilities' worth £103,629, 'net worth' of £95,678 and 'assets' worth £195,599.

This is what I mean about not listening. I say I make a nice, healthy sandwich myself... not processed shit like McDonald's. You start talking about ham. When did I ever mention ham, firstly?! I might be vegetarian for all you know - I'm not, but still. As Cyantist said, though, you can buy DECENT ham off the bone here, though - not that slimy, processed crap. A healthy sandwich could be a cheese sandwich, a tuna sandwich, an egg and cress sandwich, a falafel sandwich... it doesn't have to be meat.

Processed meat is meat that isn't fresh - it's been processed to last longer. And fast food can be worse, and be made from MRM.

 

Well, my company develops a web app, but my bussiness is not global (as this product is for an industry sector), so i dont have experience in mass online.

I do have a friend that tried a mass online product and he failed, in some ways he was in a similar place as you are, so i can share the story with you :

He is architect and decided to create a website where ppl would hire workers to do quality jobs, the idea was that he searches for quality companies that do special construction works and he puts both sides in touch. Well, as he knew 0 about web development, he had to hire a company to create his site, i think he spent 25k euros on that, the look was pretty good but it was a pain to use, he told me that the decided to not spend more money on that cause advertise in internet (just only on spain), was incredible expensive and that he would have to rebuild the entire site. I think he spent 1 year and arround 40k euros to realize that.

If you cant code, you need a load of money to run this kind of company, cause if you can code you can work on your project without having a company at all and stablish it once your project is ready, but if you have to pay ppl you need the company cause you have (and need) to declare anything you spend on your project.

My advice, make a good bussiness plan where you show how your company is going to make money and source money, as my current partner told me once : you have to allways make bussiness with others money, not yours.

Alex

 

But this would be a courageous move. If you loose it, it becomes a debt.

I'm highly considering starting small, that's why I had in mind the affiliate business. It never crossed my mind to spend 40k right from the start.
And as far as I see all the marketing lectures the main advice is: spend $1000 and wait for getting it back from your product or service, than invest it again and so on. Starting only with a small investment.

That's the main reason behind the chosen for affiliate as a start.

I've been to several classes of online marketing and when I hear people talking about how they started they didn't mention huge start ups like that.
I'm really impressed to hear that a 40k investment didn't work.

I've been digging into that Drupal that were posted here and as far as I can see it's build on modules. So maybe it won't be that hard to start from scratch by myself.
Still I'm looking into all the PM I've received and checking the availability to do hire someone at the moment.

 

well, as i stated before, if you cant code all that you can hire under 30k euros a year (plus taxes) atleast here, will be a waste of time.

again this is my personal view based on my own experience

 

Then you're doomed to fail before you start. It's true that you should start small for a product or service. However, where you're relying entirely on the Internet and nothing else, you have to get custom in the first place... which means traffic... which means advertising. And a LOT of it. There's no point being an affiliate if nobody's coming to your site in the first place... AND clicking through and making an order, of course! It's true that it takes money to make money.

Any decent CMS is built on modules/plugins. This is why you should listen to advice Coding a website from scratch is very expensive - you're doing yourself a favour to at least try a CMS first - whether you do the work yourself or pay someone else to do it.