Reasons for the Red Ringing 360s?

http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archive...about_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_failures.php

 

No surprises there. I have to say though, Microsoft are doing a good thing with the 3yr warranty.

 

Still doesn't help when my brand new 360s sitting on my floor blinking, and will be for up to a month.

 

That's yoru problem right there...it was on the floor

 

No problems with the link, but weren't you leaving two weeks ago?

 

It wasn't when it broke.

 

Personally, I don't mind having to send my 360 to Microsoft. The process is pretty fast and easy, at least when I did it last (Summer 2007). However, what will happen when that 3 year warranty runs out? I'll have a stack of 360 games and nothing to play them with.

Look even further into the future. It's not like I'm just going to throw it away when the next generation is released - I still play my Genesis like crazy, and it's almost 10 years old. However, according to the guy in that review ALL 360's fail eventually. In other words, when Microsoft finally decides to stop producing 360's, there will be no way left to play the games except for emulators. Any way you look at it, that sucks.

 

Well, chances are the next-gen Xbox will be backwards compatible with the Xbox360.

If MS has any sense anyways.

 

Just like all the Xbox games? Hah. The next gen system is going to need to be extremely fast, have the old hardware too (doubtful, as I cant see it being cheap), or based on the same architecture, which is probably the best solution.

 

Thats if there is a new Xbox.

 

from what I read, the XBOX 3 is being worked on just as any other future console project by competitors.

The brand is seen as a the living-room trojan horse to drive the consumer electronics division of Microsoft.

 

3rd time lucky or bust, I'd say.

 

Well, hopefully MS doesn't try to rush their next console out to "beat Sony" this time. I think, worst case scenario, when all is said and done the 360 is going to either be ahead of the PS3 or on equal footing.

That is, if MS would announce some games and quit keeping everyone in the dark about what they're doing. That shit certainly didn't work for Nintendo last gen.

 

And to think one of the baselines of the X360 launch was all the people involved in the project...

Who didnt thought it was a rushed job? after all only 6 months before launch they were using powermacs to run the games on E3, since there was no real hardware at all.

Now the X360 being a trojan horse makes a lot of sense. MS must have foreseen after the Xbox that making money with consoles isnt easy, and it would be better to offset the losses using other markets and products.

Anyway, I would blame Allard for most of the issues. He fucked up the Xbox's costs by using PC parts, then was the head of the X360 project, and lastly made the first Zune which with its crappy design and brown color really fits the description "shit brick".

What I dont understand is why they went for a expensive and complex design instead of a more simple and functional one if what they wanted was to create a bridge for windows from the PC to the living room.

A Wii-like console would've been a much better choice, since is both cheap and easy to use.

 

No one would have bought a Wii-like console if it was made by Microsoft, they had to release a powerful system. The reason they went with the 3 core design was the CELL. Ironic then, that it was ultimately the GPU that caused all the problems.

 

Only the Xenons are destined for fail. Microsoft still does support on the OG XBOX and my OG is still under waranty.

 

This is correct in my view too, the XBOXs emphasis has always been that it is the "best" console "all around", including power - after all, whoever got it the first time was enthused because of its more powerful hardware - sort of like the reason why so many bought the n64.

Is there any interview that they reveal that the design was so made to bang the cell? I d like to know more

 

I don't think so but I do belive they wanted to make something more efficent than the cell. which they did succeed at.

 

in what respect?

The cell was of interest to Toshiba because of its many possible applications - the PS3 processor is an amazing piece of technology that is miles ahead (in certain respects) than anything in the 360.

Where the 360 stands out is really the better balance as a games console, and of course the fact that the more traditional graphics chip is of slightly newer specs.

I wouldn't compare the CELL (as a processor) to the Xenon at any rate. It's like comparing a specialized accountant (Xenon) to a big and wise all-around businessman

 

Hasn't every one and their mother said the Cell is NOT a processor that suits it self well to gaming?