Same sex mariage legalized in Canda!!!!!!!!!

people i am a humanist to the bone !!!

and second, the answer is my country Denmark

 

I doubt it would fly in "Allahland" as well, where gay people get beheaded.

 

hmmm well strange , well in Iran it is possible to get a sex/gender change too.

And people i fight for the gay rights, so i am not replying to the discussion , only thinking the comments, since thoughts are tollfree.

 

you how you teach us important things wolverinedk are you going to be a teacher? you looooove teaching.

 

Now, Eva01, stop heckling Wolvie. He'd make a great teacher. And teaching is a decent job, dammit!

As for gay marriage, I'm in fact VERY happy it's legal now in Canada. I wish some people would realise that the fact that two guys or two girls want to get it on does not affect anyone else but those two. They love each other. They're happy together. Hell, many heterosexual marriages never have that, "correct" as they may be in the narrow view of a so called moral minority.

Calling the U.S. "Jesusland" was somewhat out of line, yes, but I'm still in shock after seeing them put the Ten Commandments on courthouses. Yes, over 50% of americans are christians. Still, the law is something apart from personal beliefs.

Still, Eva, you and I live in glass houses and should not throw stones. After all, Mexico was ruled by the Catholic Church for over 300 years, and still is, in a certain manner. I don't know where exactly you lived back in our motherland, but where I live, people still get beaten up, fired, or discriminated otherwise, for not being Catholic. Or white. Or rich.
It's sad, really. Many countries and people shield themselves with religion, one of them in particular, based on the teachings of a fictional hippy, liberal jewish anarchist who was against the abuses of organised religion. Who, by the way, never directly said anything about gays, abortion, guns, or capitalism. But that's another story. I'm not someone to interpret a very old and inaccurate translation of a very old compilation of fictional parables, but to tell you the truth, I don't think this particular character would oppose gay marriage. Some of the others, mostly in the first half of the "novel" would, though.

Workshop - I sure don't agree with you, but I'd love to hear your side of the story if you're still willing to tell it. By this, I hope you don't understand I'm forcing you to explain yourself or your motives or anything. You have your right to believe they should not marry.... but then again, they should have the right unless a guy somehow forces you to marry him or... something. Boy, I really hope that doesn't happen to you, man.
But otherwise, I don't see how it would damage you. That's my opinion only, though - and we're all free to think.
Also, AW never said it was a religious reason. For all we know, he could probably just be against catering or disco music... who knows the motives of people.

 

I wish I had that in bumper-sticker form!

I'm not gay, but am about as liberal as you can get and yes, I am religious. I have (and so does everyone else in the world) enough of my own issues not sorted out to be able to dictate whether two people who love each other should be recognized by the state. I'm pretty glad to see at least some people in North America lightening up. I come back to the states and see FILTH all over the TV. The words they can say on TV now compared to when I left is unreal. Violence -- all over the place. Show one nipple, and the whole country is up in arms. Strange world we've created.

 

I want there to be a "Gay Island" where they have their own laws and they ban heterosexual marriages because they are "unnatural" That would really put the willies (pun intended) up those narrow minded arseholes.

If you agree or not, it's not your decision, so just leave them alone. If you think they are gonna burn in hell for a bit of "bum action" or "rug munching" then leave them to it, you know you are "right" so just leave it at that. Oh yeah and I notice it's mostly aimed at gay man couples, lesbania seems immune because of peoples "secret sweaty handshakes" when mommy and daddy are out of the house.

 

I cant wait till it does! Now that will be a good day!

Classic! POTD!

 

I wish this would simply happen everywhere else so people would stop fretting about everyone else's sexual practices and just go on with their lives.

GaijinPunch has got it right. If certain people in that country would stop worrying about sex so much, and would stop worrying about very pressing issues, the quality of life in the world would increase: better life for people = less violence.

Man, if this ever happens in my country, I'm SO going to regret leaving the wedding dress industry...

 

xerdopwerko: yes i would be a great teacher if i should say that about myself
and i just know so many things (well i have a good allround knowledge of many things)
and i am still learning, so the situation with the antigay problem some has, is there problem and not mine, and second , i am thinking what if a man or woman who is an antigay person likes to get in the bum (the man could be bummed with a strapon) will they then go to hell ? I mean it is some serious double standards. and it is not an offence from my side , just a wondering.

but XerdoPwerko you said in another thread your friends said you were a "gay guy who loved women and not men" well if i remember right that term is also called "Lesbian identified male".

and to koolkid13: i like your point of views in life and kudos to you on that note, and especially that you are so young (yeah sorry i am 23 so i would consider you young) and you have such an open mind .

You remind me of a person i rained JKD with, some time ago when i still trained.

 

Yeah, and I completely agree with the situation in Canada, as I once again must specify. I completely disagree with Workshop here, but that doesn't make it right to heckle him.
I'm completely for gay marriage. I hope it would be legal everywhere. If conservatives don't like it, then they should not marry conservatives of the same gender as themselves.

I don't know what made you think I was against gay marriage or anything. And also, those weddings are sure to be VERY fun. I wish I'll get invited one day to one of them.


Also, I love the term. Where can I learn more about this "identification"?

 

gah...you are completely wrong, it is not a states right issue. in the u.s., states do not have the power to over-ride or ignore the u.s. constitution. marriage is a religious tradition, under the first amendment you have freedom of religion. if your religion allows homosexual marriage and you want to enter a homosexual marriage its your right. read the bill of rights, article one and nine. in the u.s. there is seperation of church and state...a large religion or church can not enforce its laws and doctrine on that of a small religion or church.

contrary to popular beliefe the founding fathers were not all christian, most of them were natural deists...whos beliefes fell closer to that of current day wiccans and pagans. we do not live in a christian nation, read the treaty of tripoli. read a history book for that matter. the puritans may have settled here but when it came to fight for our independance against england, the puritans fought against us. this is not a theocracy it is in fact suposed to be a federalized constitutional republic.

americans have let their country turn into a dictorial centralized republic. in which religious fundamentalists are the ones in power. it fucking sucks and i doubt this country can ever turn it self around, but thats how the shit is.


if you are against gay marriage dont have one, its as simple as that.

any american who advocates taking away another persons liberty in my mind is guilty of treason in the highest order. i dont believe you should be allowed to live in this country let alone live period. live free or die bitch.

 

SocialDrone - you are SO very right.

You have addressed all the issues at hand thoroughly, and I commend you for your knowledge of history and politics.

Great post.

 

You are right between the religious group and the the patriot act we are becoming a dictatorship not a democracy. If you look at the book 1984 we are becoming very much like the book. It is plain scary.

 

Err.. Can a mod lock this topic because some people are being dicks? I guess it wasn't the best decision to call america jesusland and I am sorry to whom ever I may have offended.

 

My belief? It's really simple. Marriage is the joining of Man and Woman. That how it has always been, and that is how it should always be. My beliefs are not purely religious, but it helps. Oh, and before you people get all crazy, I'm not a homo hater. I don't hate anyone for their beliefs. I may not a agree with them, and I may try to help them. However, I am not going to "cast someone away to eternal damnation" because they are homosexual. Some Christians and Christian churches are like that, and I think that is wrong. Maybe they should call it something else, and have a different type of ceremony, but I just can't see it as marriage if it isn't man and wife. Oh, and I can assure you that I will never be in a situation where someone tries to force me to marry them. I can take care of myself.

Wow! This statement would be so much more "profound" if you didn't have shitty grammar. Do you know what capitalization is? Doesn't look like it. Oh, and to say someone is guilty of treason just because they don't have the same beliefs as you is absurd. Here is a vision of what you want. Everyone to feel exactly the same, at all times, all day every day until the end of days. < Utopia right. If everyone felt the same about everything all the time, a little thing called progression would have never stepped in. I will stick to my beliefs and you can stick to yours, but don't tell me I don't have the right to live just because I don't feel the same way as you on this topic. That's just retarded.

 

So how would you feel about a ceremony whereby a homosexual couple get granted equal rights to a man and woman, but not necessary called marriage? I understand some homosexuals do not want this, but surely equal rights are better than nothing?

 

Yes, something like that. Like I said before, marriage is between a man and a woman. I think homosexuals should have a different ceremony.

I am going to say this right now. I am a Christian, and as such I don't think homosexuality is the right path. However, just because someone is a homosexual, I am not going to cast someone away and say that I hate them and that they will burn in hell. That's not true. I would try to help them, but the fact remains that when someone believes in something, and they believe in it strongly, then it's very difficult to "break" that belief.

 

hmmmm well the socalled marriage has not always been man with a woman, just look at the romans or the ancient egyptians or for that matter the greeks ? they were very liberal when it came to sexuality and it was something both men and men and women with women could do so naaaaaaaaaaaaaaah look at the history AlienWorkshop mate , you are so wrong when it comes to that.

but not an offence to you AW.

and koolkid13: just let evolve .

 

and AW: errhm help them ? Do you mean like try to indoctrinate/brainwash them into believing they can be straight people ? Just like my best friend who i am going on a canoo trip on tuesday in Sweden and i will be back on this forum at thursday next week ?