I'm down 35ish lbs from a year ago,.. I haven't exercised more than before I only changed my diet. First 15 lbs flew off, the rest has went very slowly. I've stayed away from pop and juice, and replaced a meal (at least every other day) with plain oatmeal and or brown rice. 10 more days and knee surgery for me. yippe :S
Yes, I had always eaten terribly. Never liked fruit or veg and never put any weight on ever. I did (and still do) eat a silly amount.
If you force yourself to eat past your "limit", you will gain weight. You will feel uncomfortable if you do this intially, but over time you will pile it on. That's if you really need to gain weight. If you're healthy and just happen to be on the slim side, there isn't any need for that.
I thought this was about this guy here: http://www.fit2fat2fit.com/ Was on Yahoo new some days ago, maybe best to check out what his rebounce is gonna be Personally I went from 32 width to 34 in about 10 years' time, that's all. Kinda hard to get this muscle thing ging though :/ Do, your BEST!
Eating until full is not enough if that is what you meant. If you force it down, even when you feel as if you can take no more, you will see results. All you have to do is consume more calories than you expend. Nobody has a bottomless stomach lol.
oh, not "forced" - just always had a large appetite. Now that I actually cant eat that much and get away with it, I have tried to get used to smaller portions.
We wife and I wanted to lose weight, so we joined a gym a year ago. We each lost a signifigant amount of weight and then we plateaued. We lost nothing for 3 months. We are vegan, so we have a very good diet and we each no fatty foods and almost no processed food. We joined a boot camp and restricted our diets even more, now we are slowly losing weight again. What really pisses me off are my roommates. They have very sedentary lifestyles, one works at a video store, the other at Starbucks and they eat terribly. How terrible? They eat fast food every single day and they will always remove all vegetables and add extra bacon and cheese. When they have breakfast, they put about 3tbsp of butter in a pan, fry bacon in the butter, add more butter and then fry their eggs! Last night for dinner, they had garlic bread and cheesy garlic bread! And you know what? Neither of them gain a single pound. They are as skinny as can be. My wife and I haven't had a cookie in a year. Although, I'm sure they have terrible health.
@ Bad_AD84: Every single one of your posts I can relate to and agree with 100%, also HeXiGON I was exactly the same, actually that comment about turning sideways made me laugh my ass off! My brothers nickname for me for years was Skeletor and his favorite he liked to pull out of the hat occasionally was 'the screaming skull' (think doom) :nod: So yeah, I could eat whatever I wanted, and I used to down a large dominoes pizza every day at lunch including the fried chicken thingys they do but I never put on weight. It got to the point when my boss and his boss were both stood over my desk questioning me about how much I exercise because they couldn't believe I could stash all those calories and salt without it affecting me. They were both health freaks as well. So yeah, you'll probably think you'll be the same way your whole life but you will fill out, in fact you'll probably end up better proportioned than a lot of people your age group going over the 30 mark because your body will equalize, not pile on extra weight like people of a more stocky build your age. I say this because it's happening to me now, and never thought it would even though I was warned by a lot of guys going through it over the years.
But if you stuffed more than you would perhaps like down your throat, it would have worked. Eating till full is not necessarily enough. That is what you should do if you were really on a mission to gain weight. And I suppose that this inability to gain weight without stuffing food down until sick may be genetic as well, not just due to age? I'm like the rest of you guys were/are and haven't gained any weight even though I eat a lot, and have a large appetite and eat until I satisfy it, not until it comes out of my nose like I would if I were desperate. My dad was able to eat multiple large McDonalds meals per day at age 54 without gaining weight, so maybe it is. He stopped before he got a heart attack though lol; just because you are slim doesn't mean that you are in perfect health in reality. Anyway, what I don't understand is why some are so eager to gain weight when there is nothing wrong? Is it to prove a point or what? As long as it is not affecting your health there shouldn't be a problem.
If it is to prove a point it's to prove a point to yourself, that your normal. That you aren't a skinny freak. Well, aren't you the sober voice of logic. :nod: Yes it was genetic I guess, my dad went through the same phase. And yes if I'd have monitored my intake of calories and balanced that against what I should have been ingesting and worked it out mathematically then I would have gained weight nicely probably. But who the hell thinks like that? Apart from obsessive compulsive minds (or actors), or anyone with the following on their mind. My point and I'm sure many others point wasn't that we were taking in more than was necessary to gain weight, it was that we felt we were taking in more than we were comfortable with and felt like we should have gained significant weight but didn't. If you shine the cold light of mathematics on the problem then of course we weren't satisfying the intake necessary to gain weight considering our metabolism. What confuses me is that someone with the ability to consider these things and put forward that statement doesn't understand the reason males want to be their perfect weight. You already know why mate, because we all want to be confident we can look after ourselves, we want to appear healthy, and why is this? So we can get laid! Biological imperative, as good an excuse as any, in fact the only excuse mainly. But you already knew that...no?
Is everything going well then? Good to hear you've found a solution. From what I've read the Keto diet is a high fat, low carb regime. I never claimed to be an expert and actually don't really know the difference between fats and carbs (I know there are good and bad categories for both). But it seems to me that a higher fat diet wouldn't be the way to go (Again just my perception! - amazing the things you learn). Though apparently they treat certain types of epilepsy with this diet. As long as it's working then it's all good in the hood! I suppose all I'm saying is that I would have thought a high fat diet would be the opposite way to go! ha, amazing what science teaches you. All the best anyway, hope everything equals out for you.
Hm, I've actually lost weight for awhile, then put it back on in terms of muscle. I'm planning on joining the military, so I've been seriously trying to get myself back into shape. I've also increased the amount of protein I eat, and carbs to some extent. I've pretty much stopped drinking soda, except on occasion. I mainly drink water or black coffee. Ever since I got told that although I wasn't really obese, but out of shape to the point that my blood pressure was up and I had a fatty liver, I changed my diet and started to become more active. My legs, arms, chest, back is all toning up quite nicely, I'm just getting annoyed because I can't get my abs the way I want them >.< I have too many younger siblings that I may have to support to some extent sometime in the near future, given that my mom and father are likely to die young. My mom could do something about her health, but is quite lazy, and my dad has only 1/3 of his lungs left, screwed up liver, horrible blood pressure, and is physically wrecked pretty much. He lost his mind awhile back and did some things that resulted in the condition he's in, but he still amazes me. He stopped his bad habits, but it's pretty much too late for him. He only amazes me because I know he has to be in a ton of physical pain, but doesn't ever show or acknowledge it. I guess it's because he use to be an army ranger.
Well, My fathers co-worker lost a bunch of weight by going on a diet consisting only of cocaine and pop tarts. I in no way support it, don't do it, it's very bad for your health and expensive lol.
I did a fair bit of research into keto recently, I'm definitely no dietician/nutritionist but I do have a basic understanding of it. Please do not take any of the following information as gospel, please do your own research if you're thinking of undertaking a ketogenic diet. Probably a good idea to see your doctor and discuss it with them first as well. Keto is one of those things that has a severe stigma associated with it, so much so that I'm posting under a throwaway account. This is due to it being pumped into us since the early 1980s that eating fat and fatty foods will cause YOU to become fat. It sounds like a fad, a scam almost, because it is so entrenched into us that we should be eating large amounts of things like fruits and vegetables, pastas, breads, grains, milk, etc for a healthy diet. It just so turns out that the vast majority of these foods are high in carbohydrates. Keto, in a sense, mimics a form of starvation (sounds terrible, I know) by forcing the body to burn fats for energy as opposed to carbohydrates. Ordinarily the body will convert carbohydrates into glucose for transportation around the body for use as energy. When you ingest carbohydrates your body has an insulin response thanks to the rise in blood sugar, which in turn causes your body to store fat. The primary goal of a ketogenic diet is to stop your body from having this insulin response. On a ketogenic diet you are eating things like: meats bacon (you will eat an incredible amount of bacon) 20% fat beef mince chicken thighs roast pork with crackling fatty salmon eggs cheeses relatively low carb vegetables (cauliflower, broccoli, etc) nuts (in moderation) butter full fat, low carb dressings like mayo, blue cheese, ranch pork rinds avocados A pretty good list of foods and associated rankings can be found at A Student's Guide to Ketosis. Fat is much, much better at satiating your hunger than carbohydrates are. I know that in the past I've eaten 2 large bowls of pasta and been hungry a couple of hours later, when the amount of calories that I'd just consumed should be enough for half a day at my Basal Metabolic Rate. The same thing would happen with pizza, with french fries, potato chips and bread, I wouldn't actually feel "full" until my stomach was literally full, space-wise. That's what I find the main difference is. Now, my brain gets the message that I've eaten enough when I have eaten enough, not when my stomach is overfull and I can feel it physically. I am satiated at a much more healthy amount of calories than previously. The aim is to get 65% of your calories from fats, 30% from protein and 5% from carbohydrates. As 1g of fat ~= 9 kcal, and 1g protein or carbohydrate ~= 4 kcal, this equates to, for a diet of 2000kcal/day, 145g fat, 150g protein and 25g carbohydrate. It may sound difficult to attain that much fat but you will be having full fat cream in your coffee instead of milk (get used to that very quickly), cooking everything in butter and olive oil, lots of bacon, slathering everything in melted cheese. I think you get the drift. You want to make sure that you don't increase the ratio of protein too much or your body will begin to burn it's muscle mass for energy as opposed to the fat that you want to be burning. I hope I've given you an oversight of the ketogenic diet. You MUST research it for yourself to find out if it's appropriate for you, I'd advise checking out the following links: A Doctor's Guide to Ketosis A Student's Guide to Ketosis Linda's Low Carb Menus and Recipes Be sensible and have fun.
