So will Activision cave over Modern Warfare 2's terrorist content?

Again if this is cut out... free speech is dead

And then my fighting game with the naked chicks and tentacle monster final boss will never get made

 

And the naked chicks game should have a level where you are the tentacled monster! Anime rape fun!

 

More like the smartest. Look how much it's given free Internet publicity to an otherwise generic FPS (yeah, CoD is inexplicably popular, but it's still a game that would easily get lost in the masses).

 

Nobody playing this game is old enough to comprehend all these things going on anyway.

 

Oh you mean like Dante's Inferno having an achievement for killing babies?

 

I'm 28.... and have it preordered...

 

If you're going to defend the game explain your reasoning...

 

Ok, I saw the full video, the one which they slaughter every person in the airport.
I was expecting something much worse.

What's the big deal? It's as bad and "distasteful" as killing civilians in GTA, or any game for that matter. (Postal anyone?)

You mean just because it's in an airport?

OH noes!!

I travel all the time and I have never EVER worried about getting "terrorized". The statistics are just too low - and besides, I ve never seen terrorists who can withstand so much gunfire and go about their thing like it's nobody's business.

It might be politically offensive to some (for whatever reason) but I just can't see what the big deal is about. It's just some Russians killing folk in an airport. I ve felt more uneasy with lame love cut-scenes - in the contrary I think the airport makes a good multiplayer map and an interesting setting nevertheless.

Clearly the matter is subjective. You don't see me react to soccer games that have listed FYROM as Macedonia although I m Greek. Actually no body gives a toss because if the game's good that's all that matters.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. That's your power as a consumer when you disapprove of something. Bitching about it just reminds me of all those "naughty" video game moments that have been made a huge deal over the years.

It's like people asking to take Cabella's hunting games off the shelves because they love animals.

It's an FPS using guns. It seems fun because you aim and shoot at things. What you're aiming and shooting at is a bunch of polygonal characters. The rest is in your mind, get over it.

 

I think everyone has a different idea or limit on what they consider over the line or offensive. Now I love the GTA games but there is just enough unreality to it that takes the edge off. Modern Warfare is meant to be extremely realistic so the scene comes off pretty harsh.

I think to each their own. Buy it and enjoy it when it comes out if it doesn't bother you at all. But I think with all the past controversy over gaming, its something the industry didn't need. The sequence could have been done as just a spectator, not as a participant.

 

That's what I thought at first. I kill civilians all the time in GTA. But CoD is so much more realistic. And hearing the screams, and seeing someone try and help someone else up, while the player just unloads on them... I just felt kinda sick watching it. I guess I'm not as jaded as the rest of you.

 

Surely it won't end up as bad as it seems.

 

It's been leaked for 360, I imagine that it went gold at least a few weeks before all this controversy so the odds of them doing a complete recall, cutting the mission and repressing the discs are slim to none.

 

hmm,many people give the same reaction to this game as the original DOOM on the pc way back in the day

 

I still just can't believe that people bother to get upset over stuff that is designed specifically to upset people..the strategy is about as old as time itself but it still seems to work every time!

Watched the video, didn't really see a difference between that and massacring a crowd of civilians in GTA or Prototype. I guess it's the magic word "terrorist" that sends people into hysterics (again, an obvious publicity grab. Also, I guess Die Hard should be banned because terrorists kill people in it).

 

The only thing I have to say about it is snooze fest. CoD games can get pretty damn boring after awhile. Now what you're supposed to shoot doesn't even fight back? As for the whining over it, I don't think it's that bad. While I see the point of someone in a fucked up mind state using it as inspiration or something if not that then there are a million other similar things. To a normal person though, it's just a silly game. Also it's important to note that the single player campaign isn't really the focus of the game anyway despite what the developers say. It's mainly an online shooter game.

 

This mostly.


probably 70% of the audience for this game is barely past the age of 16

 

I see why they've done it, to make things very realistic, but I think they've gone far too far. I'm a big fan of the CoD series and always have been since the first game. The Gripping storyline, every main character has a unique personality.

It's far over the top, I don't know how they are going to get away with it if stuff like a crude sex mini game in San Andreas gets banned. I really don't see how it can be enjoyable to interact with slaughter, it really doesn't look fun. I really wouldn't have a problem with it if it just wasn't so graphic, the setting or what not doesn't bother me. It's just sometimes being unrealistic might be the more enjoyable option.

This is the first storyline in a Video Game that I've disagreed with. It's actually pretty disgusting and I'm positive people who have the mental age of over 12 years old will agree with me.

 

I enjoyed the first CoD4, but I played the single player only. Took me about 3 days to do and then I sold it.

My brother has been playing it constantly for a year or so now, he's 13. :lol:

 

This is a very interesting point that I think is going to crop up in more and more video games in the future. I get the impression that game developers are trying to challenge players with sequences/set pieces which are not necessarily enjoyable and actively seek to unnerve/disgust.

While such tropes are commonplace in written, live action or even animated media they are almost unheard of in interactive media, hence this discussion. While the subject matter is undoubtedly abhorrant and is execution is explicitly detailed this could mark a watershed in video game narratives.

Another game which probably will probably spark similar outrage [if it actually proves popular enough to reach the mainstream press] will be David Cage's Heavy Rain when one of the female protagonists you play can be forced to strip at gunpoint in a thoroughly unpleasant gameplay sequence.

Which brings me to my point; in the UK MW2 has been approved by the BBFC as an 18 certificate and it will be illegal for it to be sold to a child. I will argue till I'm blue in the face that if there is a product that you do not like whether a book/tv show/movie/game/chocolate bar/whatever don't buy it, certainly don't buy it for your children!

Is there a place for such unpleasantness in games? In my humble opinion, yes if it has a positive affect on the narrative and is not exploitative.

Is this the case with MW2? I certainly don't know from a grainy youtube clip viewed completely out of context from the game. What we should ask is why was this leaked? Publicity? Disgruntled employee? l33t hxr0rZ11!? Then we can establish whether someone is merely exploiting the fact that they are put in an environment with civilians to slaughter or whether the game [not necessarily it's npcs] punish you for doing so. Is the nasty feeling of playing that level punishment enough?

I personally look forward to playing the game through and drawing my own conclusions.

ps. I'm in my mid 20's
pps. Referenced Heavy Rain Info

 

So the reasoning is still that someone will play the game and attempt to reenact the scenes? C'mon, if anything like that were true our crime rates would have skyrocketed after each GTA release.

Leave it all in. Play what you want. Ban real guns, not virtual ones.