Sony & M$ waggle their wands

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by StarWolf, Oct 11, 2005.

  1. StarWolf

    StarWolf Guest

    According to this both Sony and Microsoft have been working on controllers similar to the new Revo 'wand' device.

    Interesting.
     
  2. RyanGamerGoneGrazy

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    wouldnt surprise me in the least, though, since both systems will launch with a standard controller, the most that will ever see of it is something of eye toy caliber, though its unlikely sony or microsoft could come up with ideas like nintendo does
     
  3. cahaz

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    what a bunch of copiers. This is just stupid, at this point. just hope that nintendo copy righted it, or something. Well, nintendo feared to be copied...

    Edit: Oh, just read the article...i'm pretty sure that's not even true...

    Oh well, only Nintendo got the guts to show it like that.
     
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  4. Mr. Casual

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    I dont know why they would copy that idea in the first place.
     
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    I wonder why the copied the Analog joystick, Rumble feature, the cross and the shoulder buttons too.
     
  6. Mr. Casual

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    BTW, did anyone notice the date of the patent? :smt033
     
  7. AlbinoLove

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    Nintendo probably had some sort of a patent before then anyway. It really wouldnt be difficult for the other companies to figure out that this is what ninty was doing and make a knockoff. Anyway this is what happens in the console world...
     
  8. Alien Workshop

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    Just a tip cahaz, but it's not a cross, it's a D-Pad.

    Also, I always thought the Neo Geo CD was the first system to implement an analog stick on a control pad. Can anyone confirm this? Was the stick on the Neo Geo CD pad analog, and wasn't the Neo Geo CD released before the N64?
     
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  9. Borman

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    I thought that the Saturn pad was the first real analog pad? im confused hehe
     
  10. ccovell

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    The NEO CD's controller is a digital pad; it just has clicky switches rather than rubber buttons.

    And, jeez guys, know your history. Analogue controllers have been around long before the 32-bit systems. I should point to: The stick for the Vectrex; the paddle controllers for the NES, SMS, 2600, etc; That funky XE1-AP for the X68000 and Megadrive; etc...
     
  11. gaming247

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    Even if this is true, which I'm not sure it is, I don't know how much of a difference it'll make in the long run. The games make the console to a point, imho.

    Eventually someone else will try to use something similar to a revo controller if it works well, but at the end of the day (and maybe after a price drop) I'll still get a revo to play zelda and other nintendo exclusive games. Just like I'd still end up with the other consoles to play their exclusive games. Then I'll just pick a favorite console for the multiplatform games.

    Oh and according to wikipedia, the first analog joystick (for a home console) was on an Atari 5200
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_stick (scroll down to the "History" section)
     
  12. ROB FURY

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    Analog sticks were around during the 80's, actually, but they weren't self-centering so they didn't become popular.

    Nintendo introduced it's N64 controller during one of their Shoshinkai shows (1995) but Sega rushed their analog controller to beat them to the punch.

    Actually, no wait, I'm wrong.

    N64 launched in late June of 96 and NiGHTS (w/analog controller) was released about 2 weeks later in July of 96 ...in Japan.

    Borman, you may be right about Sega having the first "real" analog pad. They say that Nintendo's control stick is actually digital with lots and lots of pressure points.
     
  13. ROB FURY

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    My last post made no sense. Sorry guys.
     
  14. gaming247

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    No, it was alright, just try to use edit in the future instead of double posting ;)

    And you are right, assuming that the dates in the link I posted are correct.
     
  15. Evangelion-01

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    depends where you are located and your lenguage.
     
  16. Johnny Vodka

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    that article and picture makes it look like the eye toy....maybe Sony figured people don't want to wave dumbass remotes around and they turned this into the eyetoy?
     
  17. XerdoPwerko

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    Eva01 is right, we do call it "the cross" in Spanish. In English, though, it's better to call it a "cross-pad" (I've seen it written like that in magazines, I think), or the Directional pad.

    Another example of misinterpreted literal translation?

    Rob Fury is also right. The 5200 had the first analogue joystick of sorts, but it's not precisely the same as modern analogue sticks. It was either Nintendo or Sega who came up with the modern analogue stick, but I'm thinking it was probably Nintendo who came up with it first.

    ¿Was the disc-controller on the Intellivision analogue?
    ¿Were there other 80s consoles with analogue control, other than the Vectrex? (as they say in the Wikipedia Article)
     
  18. Alien Workshop

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    Yes, and I think we all know about the shitty analog sticks for the 5200 and so on.

    I think our main focus is a "small" analog pad, not some huge ass stick. During those times, joy-stick style pads were common. Then it was the D-pad, then the analog stick, then the Dual Analog sticks (which I think is the best).

    So the little stick on the Neo Geo CD pad is digital? It's still bad ass.

    @Evangelion-01

    As for the comment about the cross, on a cross the horizontal line intersects more toward the top of the vertical line, where on a D-pad it intersects in the middle. So calling it a cross is wrong.

    Again, I wasn't trying to point out cahaz's mistake, I was just trying to help him out.
     
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  19. XerdoPwerko

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    Indeed, Workshop, in English the correct term is D-Pad, Directional Pad, or more rarely Cross pad. The misunderstanding of calling it cross would come from the literal translation of Spanish or French, methinks.

    Back on topic - I find it a little too convenient for Sony and Microsoft to claim to have "invented" this first. Heh, once again, they're just copying off of Nintendo.
     
  20. cahaz

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    they also patented the matrix, mind you.

    And i saw on a website that nintendo have the intelectual rights on their controller.
     
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