Sony patents technology that prevents used games from working on ps3

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  1. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    With the technology behind Blu-Ray and HD-DVD, this type of DRM security will be possible and will most likely happen. I'm glad Bill Gates is pushing against BOTH HDDVD and BluRay disc technology for that simple reason. He envisions that media will be transported thru highbandwith networks and stored on hard drives rather than ROM media.

    Now the Xbox360 will someday support HDDVD, but I think PS3 will support Blu-Ray right when its released, so the technology is going to be rushed and that means theres a chance that they won't implement this DRM or early PS3s won't be able to perform such security measures out of the box.

    I say let the industry suffocate itself.

    ALso, in a grander scale. Sony could be doing this to prevent other companies from employing this type of technology. If MS wanted to do this for the 360 then it would have to pay Sony a royalty fee and I doubt MS would like to do that. Now that I think about it, the XBOX 360 will most likely be a mainstream hit and the Nintendo Revolution will stay as a cheap "underdog" videogame system.
     
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  2. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    I can see a couple of workarounds, if you never play the game on-line, as in you never have the PS3 hooked up to the internet, then the console never gets the chance to send the info that your game has been registered to a specific console. But that would mean you could never play any online games without registering your game, which would suck.

    Or the Ps3 is supposed to have a hard drive, right? So you download some serial numbers from the internet, get some kind of program that fools the Ps3 into registering your game with the phoney serial number. BAM! Clean used game. But I doubut most people would go through the trouble of doing all this.

    I'm testing on the 360 btw. The machine is sweet. It's everything the Xbox tried to be but isn't.
     
  3. cahaz

    cahaz Guardian of the Forum

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    No ps3 games at blockbuster... That seems too stupid to be true. Then again, it wouldn't really surprise me, coming from sony.
     
  4. RyanGamerGoneGrazy

    RyanGamerGoneGrazy Clubbies Are Minis Too!

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    what next?...a console that only works with the first electrical socket you plug it into?.....controllers that only work with the system it sold with?.....
     
  5. cahaz

    cahaz Guardian of the Forum

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    a console that only works with the first game you put in it perhaps?

    The thing is, Trying before buying was always a good strategy. Now, Next gen games are going to cost X+20$ approximativly. People will want to try games before buying them more than ever.
     
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  6. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    OMG, a $400 disposable (one time use) console!!!
     
  7. Kittyhawk

    Kittyhawk Robust Member

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    Sony's ultimate dream system. ^_^

    Welcome to the future! Where you don't own the things you buy and are told what to do with them. Beware if you *gasp* act like you own it and open it up! Cars and consoles alike!
     
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  8. cahaz

    cahaz Guardian of the Forum

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    way too true. You paid it= you own it= you do whatever you want with it.

    Of course, this is not own it works in real life.
     
  9. dj898

    dj898 Site Supporter 2015

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    damn! and I was looking forward to trash PS4 by pushing from 19th floor... :p
     
  10. macwest

    macwest Resolute Member

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    Sounds like a sony thing to do. After sony blew it on their music cds now they want to screw up the game consoles. Oh well one less console to buy. I played an xbox 360 soncoel today. Walmart had it on display and it rocked. I will stick with Microsoft and Nintendo. Forget sony They have been losing money on most of their other business ventures guess it was just a matter of time till they screwed up the game console.
     
  11. Chief Chujo

    Chief Chujo Guest

    I don't think there is anyway the ps3 will be using this. I just cannot see Sony making a fuck up of this magnitude with one of the only cash cows they have left.
    They would hand the market over to MS if they did.
     
  12. dj898

    dj898 Site Supporter 2015

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    well don't you remember what happened with Nintendo?
    More than anything else their arrogance was the cause of their fall from the crown...
    could history repeats itself... maybe???
     
  13. macwest

    macwest Resolute Member

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    I can see it. Sony is one of the key players pushing new copyright technology. We wil have to wait and see if the PS3 is a key player in the market or one of the biggest lame ducks to hit the gaming industry.
     
  14. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    exactly my thoughts, sony has become very arrogant recently, and the ps3 is proof of ths, i mean for god sakes they didnt even have ps3 playable at tokyo game show, as well as all the devlopers complaints including from one saying that if the ps3 costs too much and isnt bought by alot, they are going to drop support due to high costs and coplexety of development.
     
  15. AntiPasta

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    Yeah, I'm glad too - but it sounds like a bad coverup for using obsolescent technology (in a way similar to Ninty using the ultra-embarassing excuse of the GC being built "especially for games" and thus not playing DVDs). And this 'vision' will probably not have much to do, in practice, with the 360.
     
  16. You all know the best thing about this technology, right? It means an end to crap games!! Because we won't be able to trade in half the game library like we all did with PS1 & PS2, it's going to have to mean that Sony will have to guaranteee each purchaser that every new game you buy is fantastic and better than the last! I for one cannot wait! Thank you Sony... you are the true pioneers and saviours of the gaming world! ;)
     
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  17. madhatter256

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    The day crap games are no longer released, pigs will fly.
     
  18. socialdrone

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    the simple fact that they developed the technology pisses me off. its a violation of u.s. constitutional copyright law.

    i wont be buying any new ps3's or any sony products for that matter. even if this was origionally developed for the ps2...ive had it. when i buy a game/cd/software/computer/game console, im not leasing it, i own it.

    if a company expects me to register online or let them have access to my computer they can expect me not to buy their product. if a company uploads spyware, exchanges files, or makes changes to my property without notification and my consent they can expect me to become violently angry.
     
  19. Warakia

    Warakia Beyond Cool

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    I bet (insert something to convince you of my sincerity) that we will never see technology this silly, particularly in regards to the used market. Sony could have put this on the ps2 by the sounds of things, while Sony want control of the market (read the last paragraph of the patent), they need the used market as well. BTW this is a rumour, lets not crucify sony just yet...

    As for technology like this even existing, when you have a good idea you patent it. The fact that you have it means nothing. Its just useful to have things that you can get royalties for.

    And as for the arrogance of sony, the probable reason that nothing is playable yet is probably because nothing is even semi-ready yet! This generation is just so rushed, are we to condemn sony for actually taking their time to get things vaguelly right? Especially as Sony can't afford to release shite hardware this time round, given the alleged price jump.
     
  20. momosgarage

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    What percent of current console players go online in the US?

    Are nex-gen systems going to require internet access? I know its a possibility, but how do they intend to deal with customers that don't have the internet and don't want to get it for their nex-gen system
     
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