Say what you will about the claim to games and apps (many of which are priced at 5$ and are sure as hell better then 'budget' releases on consoles which cost 20$ or more, let alone some higher priced games), or Apples advertising strategy (which again, others do similar or try to imitate) but: iPod Touch (32gb) : 299.99 ZuneHD (32gb) : 289.99 Sony Walkman (16gb) : 299.99 Huge difference in price there...not.
$199 would get you a 16Mb Cowon S9, which is a much better MP3 player then the Apple Ipod Touch is though. Which is 8gb more then then the Ipod Touch 8Gb.. and it plays more music formats (including FLAC) and will play them for longer too.
As nice as the Cowon is, it doesnt have the 'mass market' appeal of either the Zune or iPod Touch (not that the Sony does), nor the App store to back it up. Trust me, Im not saying the iPod is a great music player by any stretch lol.
Even comparing the number of DS titles to PSP is... hilarious. I stay away from the DS wall in game shops unless I need something in particular because the lineup is just so saddening.
Apple always seems to resort to bad mouthing their competition instead of letting their innovation sell the product. That baffles me.
Yeah, and if a TV show bad mouths Apple they get all shirty about it. BBC Click said that Apple told them that they couldn't even comment on an item and if they did it would sour releationships between Apple and the BBC. Of course the BBC just said sod it and gave comments :lol: Yakumo
He's comparing it to portables, not the Wii, 360 or PS3. the PSP is 130 and the DSi is 170. tha'ts half the price of the iPod touch. THIS. Their entire ad campaign is based on this. And I'll say this - from personal experience using nothing but Macs in schools and at friends house (I'm looking at you Graciano1337) I've had more issues with Apple products than my PC. And I'm not even going to bring up my iPod issues...
Actually, the comparable PSP is 250$, with 8gb of built in storage and all. Or, to get the DSI up to storage, youll be spending 20-30 more, bringing it, wait for it, right up there with the lower end iPod touch, which is 199.99
Well, I lol'ed too about that statistic. But thinking a bit more about it, it got its point: By opening up the platform to everybody (the "devkit" costs like $99/year, which is next-to-nothing compared to what we know from the game industry), there has been a lot of activity from developers. Sure, a lot of the games are crap. A lot of the games are "casual" games which sell for <$1. Only very few games are comparable to a PSP or a DS game. But they do exist, and can be done. So what? The amazing thing here is that the device actually has the possibilities to run "full" games. Sure, multitouch is no replacement for a decent controller, which means that games can't be converted directly. But didn't Nintendo went the same route, trying to move away from a traditional controller? The iPod Touch has more (GPU,CPU,RAM,Storage) power than a PSP or DS. AND it got developer support, even from the big studios. Sure, it's a completely different approach, but even the non-macboys here should see that it's not terrible unsuccessful in its market. In contrast, it sells well. Very well. Even contents sells well, more than well. It has an attachment rate which the "big 3" can just dream of. And yes, it's a media player, has a browser, a camera(*) - hello, Nintendo, didn't you just add that to your perfectly fine portable gaming console? Somehow, DS and iPod are just meeting in the middle, coming from two completely different sides. iPod Touch starts at $199, DSi is $169. That's not too much of a difference. I agree that the iPod Touch isn't quite there. But it's definitely on the right track. To be honest, I'm less surprised on how fast Apple moved forward than I'm surprised on how little Sony and Nintendo moved forward in the last few years. The lack of real innovation past DS/PSP introduction made it so easy for Apple to catch up. And yes, I have to admit that I switched from Windows and Linux to OS X on most of my computers, I'm using an iPhone and hey, I even installed OS X on my parent's computers. It has its downsides, too, but compared to what I've been using before, its definitely an improvement for me. So call me a fanboy, cause that's what I am - I like their stuff, because it works well, isn't too expensive and has a high quality. And it looks good, but if you would see the scratches on my phone, you would know that that's definitely not the reason for me to buy Apple products. (*) Uh, right, the iPod Touch doesn't come with a camera. Seriously, do you miss it much?
If you looked hard enough you could get a PSP (3000) core pack with a 8GB Sony Pro Duo memory stick for under $199. Even using amazon it would be $169 for the PSP and just over $30 for the 8GB memory card. Although reading the specs of the ipod touch it seems to me to be a glorified PDA. I am sureprised they didn't call it iNewton. It doesn't seem to do anything that a Palm or Windows Pocket PC unit hasn't done for years now...
It has wide, easy-access support for the masses, and the whole being there at the right time thing. Though Ill be the first to admit that Ive switched from my iPhone to a Pre, but thats more ATTs fault then anything else
How do you figure? The iPod touch HAS to have built in memory in order to hold its games, but the PSP and DS need only the physical medium that their games are stored on. They are trying to compare themselves to other video game hardware. There is no need to throw things in such as "no iPod" and "no Multitouch". That would be like Sony saying "look we have buttons and they don't" Ör "user replaceable swappable batteries for increased play time"... Oh wait that last one is a valid point sorry.
I think it'll be interesting to compare the iTouch, PSP and DS versions of GTA: Chinatown Wars as this is the first major release (not including any daft little puzzle games) that has been available on all three platforms. Having played the DS original I'm quite looking forward to getting the game on my iPhone.
"Expensive games" is actually a good point when you consider that a sizable portion of the DS library consists of shovelware crap like "Sudoku" or "memory/vision/whatever test" games that would only cost a buck or something on iPod Touch (and seriously, Lumines on PSP is something that might as well be on iPod), while DS games are far more expensive. The Touch still isn't a very good platform for a lot of games because, you know, it has no buttons, but I wouldn't be surprised if games on the App Store were outselling PSP games.
Trying to match features at least a bit, thats why. And the user replaceable battery thing is valid for the PSP1000-3000, sure, but not the PSPgo, and of course not Nintendos handhelds.
LOL i see history repeating itself, anyone remember the fate of the Ngage they did the same thing they slagged off the GBA saying that they were going to really show nintendo how it's done. Comparing the touch as a serious contender against the ds & psp is laughable at best. The best Touch games are nowhere even remotely in the same league as the best on DS & PSP. Most of the stuff on the apps store i wouldnt even download if it was free as it's just plain shite.
I get that, but why is it that everyone always compares up? At the base price point of all three systems the Touch cannot even compare. It should not be assumed that the comparison requires add ons and extras. People can purchase those if they please, but nowhere is it required that you purchase extra memory in order to play games on the PSP and DS. If we are truly making a comparison based on gaming then these things should be omitted. Having said that I would like to point out that Having access to the app store can easily be countered by lack of ability to purchase software anywhere else. Purchasing games in a store is just as much a plus as being able to use an online download service.
