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Super Famicom bridge adapter

Discussion in 'Want to Buy Requests (WTB)' started by Fu-Sheng, Nov 3, 2011.

  1. Fu-Sheng

    Fu-Sheng Active Member

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    Hello everybody,

    I am looking for a bridge adapter simply gives the opportunity to play US Super Nintendo games on a Japanese Super Famicom. It looks like that:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E5CXjFSxng
    I am not looking for some adapter that is common in Europe, allows you to play NTSC games on a PAL system.

    Please contact me when you got an adapter like the one shown in that old video.

    Thanks
     
  2. splith

    splith Resolute Member

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    'I am not looking for some adapter that is common in Europe, allows you to play NTSC games on a PAL system.'
    All you need to do is get one of those adapters, open the case (or break it) and it'll slot into your SNES!
     
  3. Lum

    Lum Officer at Arms

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    The annoyance with some Europe adapters is needing a cart attached to the back. Poor design idea, makes it wobbly. I've had little luck selling mine of that type. Even though it has the full width connector to support FX chip games.
     
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  4. Fu-Sheng

    Fu-Sheng Active Member

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    The problem with all those third party adapters out there is, that they cause trouble with some games.
    That's why I was looking for those very simple bridge adapters. I could use something like the gamegenie, but some games wont work with that. If I do not find a converter I will just cut out some extra space so that the US-modules will will.
    Of course I would prefer some other method but the people who sell adapters on ebay usually do not know what exactly they are selling.
     
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  5. Consumed

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    The trouble with a bridge adaptor is that it won't play all games as it can't beat the region protection routines that were put on most post 1993-1994 carts, that's the beauty of the Action Replay. Yes it may look cumbersome and unwieldy but there's probably less than a dozen carts in the entire of the SNES/Super Famicom library that it can't run. Off the top of my head I can't think of a single one but the law of averages suggests there has to be at least a couple.

    Or you could carefully widen the slot. SNES' and SFCs are for playing, not worrying about how they look :nod:
     
  6. Fu-Sheng

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    Really, those simple bridgeadapters got the same problem as let's say the game genie or those Europen converters that bypass the region lock?

    I thought those simple bridgeadapters are not more than an extension of the actual cartridge slot, without any special chips that could cause problems.
     
  7. Lum

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    If the specific adapter he's thinking of exists, it'd merely connect all pins 1:1. 100% of the US and JPN/Korea libraries should be interchangeable with any NTSC console that way. As they all share the same region code.
     
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  8. Fu-Sheng

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    I think I maybe found something. Not sure yet.
    Can somebody tell me a few games that are well known for not being able to play with a game genie (or similar adapters) properly or at all? So that I can try them.
     
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  9. Lum

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    I think Super Mario RPG has a picky version.

    Also the wider connector is important, you probably know some older import adapters and game genie type items lack it.
    Those added pins were used by more carts than people realize. Among those:

    Kirby Super Star
    Super Game Boy
    Kirby Dream Land 3
    Megaman X2
    Megaman X3
    Doom
    Star Fox
    Yoshi's Island
    Super Mario RPG
    Power Rangers Zeo Battle Racers
    Derby Stallion 96
    Shining Scorpion Lets & Go
    Satellaview BS-X

    etc.
     
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    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    Wouldn't it be simpler to just get a Chinese copier? Those things usually can accept any kind of game, dump them, and de-protect them too. Plus, you can hold multiple games in memory at any given time.
     
  12. Lum

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    Yes. The pins are for Super FX, SA-1, and similar upgrade chips. You'll need an adapter with the wide connector on those games I listed above. But you are correct that more Japan titles use them.

    Hence owning a Japanese SNES (or N64) in the US is mainly for aesthetic/novelty value. Both system have zero incompatible standard release games between US and Japan on a software level. Only the plastic shells differ. I don't know about compatibility of pirate or flash carts.

    One can literally replace the back off cheap unwanted sports games to convert most N64 imports...
     
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  13. Fu-Sheng

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    Hello Trenton_net, I had the same idea already, but after some research I found out that they have problems playing with special chips games. I assume the whole list Lum already mentioned wont work.

    I just made up my mind. As I am not willing to spend so much money on converters that wont work in the end and as it seems to be impossible to get information which adapters will allow me to play ALL US-Games on a Super Famicom (though the adapter in the youtube-video looks promising, but cannot find any additional picture or information about it), I will cut out the plastic shell a little and wont use any converter at all.
    Doing so, would that allow me to play 100% of all the US games? :confused:
     
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    As previously mentioned you just need an adapter that has all the pins connected, I have a Super Famicom JR. and and play all my SNES games with an adapter that has all the pins.
     
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  15. Lum

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    It may be possible (if ludicrous) to salvage a connector pin edge and slot, like off an adapter, then solder the two parts together direct. Electrically that "should" work. Though I very much doubt it'd be built strong enough to hold up in actual use...
     
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    @Hamburglar
    And those games mentioned by Lum work with that adapter as well?

    @Lum
    And how about my question conerning the reshaping of the Super Famcom-plastic shell so that US-games fit. Will all US-games work on a SFC when they are directly connected to the system?
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    Yes, its achieving the same thing as the adapter you wanted to buy after all.
     
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  18. beharius

    beharius Resolute Member

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    It's not that simple.Both S-CLK and F413 chips should be modified for that.
    Universal adapters solve this "region" problem...
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    Pretty sure that only applies if you are trying to use PAL/50hz games.

    NTSC 60hz USA -> Jap is just a physical lockout because of the shape of the carts.
     
  20. beharius

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    Then I remember wrong. Sorry for misinformation.
     
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