Can anybody help me out with choosing a SuperGun? I have narrowed it down to 3. 1. Vega 9000DX http://www.videogameimports.com/images/pictures/Vega9000DX_July24_2006.jpg £299.99 + £7.50 Delivery Charge 2. Vega Jr. http://www.videogameimports.com/images/pictures/Supergun_VegaJr_30Mar2007_MINT.jpg £329.00 + £7.50 Delivery Charge 3. Sigma Raijin http://www.retrogame-shop.com/shop/images/raijin.jpg £260.00 Delivered (With RGB Cable) If anybody can recommend one that would be great ;-)
Maybe it's just me, but they seem oddly expensive for what is essentially a JAMMA plug, a pile of buttons and two joysticks. Noting that Console Passion do one for £90, I think they're a touch pricey - however they will probably give you a better experience.
Id ask around at the NeoGeo boards, a RGB capable one (seeing as though youre in the UK) should be cheap, and joysticks as well.
Thanks for the advise guys I'll check on the Neo Geo boards too. There seems a hugh differences in build quailty with the console passion supergun and any of the Japan ones.. I do the think the ones above are alot of money but from what I have read are much better. As anybody had any experience with any superguns? Is it just worth getting a cheapo?
There is an arcade forum on the boards too, not that it'll help much. The Sigma Raijin is a nice piece of kit, it's just it's about £130 in Japan. It's not worth getting a really cheap Supergun unless you know it's decent quality, there are going to be minor pitfalls to most superguns just don't get one from Raven Games with their laugh a minute sales blurb...
Damn, £130 in Japan!! But still I guess by the time you've paid for shipping it'll be closer £200 - That makes me feel a little better. Any idea where to get them from on import at this price?
Shipping of a Sigma AV7000 + 9000TB to the UK is about 50 GBP (I've sent a few). I have a used Sigma AV7000 + 2 9000TB sticks for sale if you want to take a crack at them. It is a great gun. Personally, I wouldn't bother w/ the Raijin... I can't stand having people that close to me. They also come w/ the video & contoller pinouts in the case that you want need to make an RGB cable or another controller. If you have your heart set on the Raijin, I can probably get you a new one for close to 200GBP after EMS shipping & my commission. Comes w/ a Jamma harness, but you'd have to make your own RGB cable. In fact, the shipping is probably cheaper than 50 GBP... but I wouldn't know until I got it in my hands.
That's sounds really good! I do like the sound of the Raijin due to the fact that it emulates the positioning of a real arcade machine.. I have a couple of questions for you though. 1. When you say "new one" does that mean i comes with a box or anything like that? I've seen the Vegas Jr. comes with one - Not that it really matters. 2. When you say I'll need to make a RGB cable, does that mean I have to make it or does it mean I could buy one? I'd be interested in a new Raijin, how soon do you think you'd be able to get one for? Cheers for all the advice and help everyone!
If you live in the UK, then I'd recommend getting this Supergun that I found on eBay. I forget what it's called, but it's basically a little tiny circuit board with JAMMA in and SCART, speaker, and D-Sub outputs (the D-Sub is for megadrive controllers). You have to supply your own PSU, but that's easy to do as all you need is an AT or ATX PSU. The only bad thing about it is that the controllers are limited to 3 buttons, and besides Mega Drive controllers aren't the best anyway. It also doesn't look very pretty (it doesn't come in a case). On the positive side, it's extremely compact, extremely cheap, and it outputs in RGB SCART. The controller thing might not be an issue anyway, as some arcade boards (some versions of the MVS for instance) have controller ports built into them that support Neo Geo controllers and other stuff. I don't remember how much mine was, but I think it was about $40 or £20.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jamma-Arcade-...oryZ3945QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Looks good, may buy one myself, I have all the parts to build one except the multimeter, this is about the same price as one and not likely to fry my TV!
Yeah, I checked those out.. And for he price they are worth getting even if you already have a supergun!! What puts me off getting something like that is the arcade feel... I doesn't really do it for me.. It feels more like console gaming which can be achieved on a modded xbox. But for a cheap way of getting the PCB up and running why not...
Slightly off topic - my friend is making a NES supergun (well has been doing it for years...... ) http://www.tikipod.com/projects/proj_supergun/tpod_projects_superg01.htm
Yep. I buy them from a shop in Akihabara. It's not a very flashy box. Simply says Sigma on it. As before though, I've not seen the Raijin one. I assume it's somewhat similar. The shops sell Japanese 21-pin RGB cables. You'd need to ask someone a bit more familiar with Japanese RGB & Euro Scart RGB. The pinout is slightly different. If you go the VG Imports route you'd want to ask them if the RGB cable they have is the stock one or if it's a Euro homebrew. On this side of the pond, it's a bit pricey at (I think) 4,000 yen, so you'd be looking at close to another 20 GBP for that. Quickly. Once I order them, I get them in like two days and ship the next. The longest wait is for them to quit scratching their balls and check their email. -GP
As a note the Vega is basically no longer made or sold in Japan. The shop that sells the Sigma AV7000 and Raijin is Mak Japan. http://www.mak-jp.com/ctrbox.html I would get the Japanese RGB cable and then get someone to rewire it or build a Japanese 21 Pin to SCART convertor, should take all of 30 minutes, a conector and plug and a 9 way video cable. http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=av:scart2rgb
If someone is handy w/ the solder wouldn't it be easier (and cheaper) to just make a cable. The Sigma cables are pricey. 2500 yen for S-Video, 3500 or so for RGB. It's a 13-pin DINN connector which kind of sucks unless you've got non-knobby fingers. Not me, in other words.
13 pin DIN connectors are just not worth the hassle, they are as fiddily and as annoying as trying to solder minidin connectors. The cable is likely to have been made well and it's probably cheaper to buy and make a convertor (SCARTs have nice large bucket pins so even if you are cack handed you can't go wrong...) that then ask someone to make you up a lead, plus you still need to give them the pin outs. More hassle...
