The Max & Parris faulty PS2 Tool tread

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  1. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    The thing is even if the dvd cable was faulty, it wouldnt explain the weird video output you are getting on tv..
    Did you reassemble the whole thing again and tested it again?
     
  2. mdmx

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    No, I haven't reassembled it. Meanwhile I removed the DVD drive cable. One contact has been lifted off. It's very difficult to photograph this with a mobile phone:

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  3. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    I can't really make out from the photograph, however I can't understand how transit would cause damage to an IC cable?

    The cable in question was tested completely end-to-end with a voltage meter and every connection was fine.

    I mentioned a long time ago to OE that I didn't like the look of the cable and at that time he mentioned he might be able to firstly test it and secondly use a track pen to fix any cable connection errors.

    It transpired however that it was perfectly fine despite it's ratty appearance. Personally I don't think the IC is the issue as it would have no bearing on the video output. If a particular track IS now damaged then you can obtain a silvering pen to literally DRAW the track onto the remaining plastic and it does create sufficient connection.

    I'll look over the photographs properly in a minute (just having dinner)
     
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  4. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    I've just given as good a look over them as I can considering they are from mobile phone. I can't see anything glaringly obvious. Nothing is unplugged or obviously damaged.

    The DVD drive in your unit is actually the newer DVD taken from the unit sent to me by Matt as I swapped them over and never got around to returning it to the newer machine, so you actually have the newer DVD. It worked perfectly well, and when it was in the newer TOOL it read almost everything I threw at it. In te older unit I was happily playing "Oni" about 30mins before I packaged your unit up for delivery.

    The IC cable was fine in both machines, again I swapped a lot around to try and establish potential issues.

    I'm stumped
     
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  5. mdmx

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    Just powered up the unit. How strange, Linux did a HDD check during bootup. It seems that Linux lost all the settings. I cannot login anymore and Eth0 is now configured for DHCP.

    The TV output is still the same.
     
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    ooops, I connected the wrong HDD. Switched back, can login again.


    But why the hell is on the second HDD another Linux operating system??
     
  7. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    LOL - I did tell you about the 2nd HDD didn't I - that's the big debate. At the moment the best theory put forward is that it is an emergency back-up.
     
  8. mdmx

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    yes, you told me about the 2nd HDD, but you forgot to mention that Linux is on the 2nd HDD ;-) I thought the 2nd HDD has PS2 firmware or something similar on it.
     
  9. mdmx

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    has anyone an idea what I could do next?

    Both HDDs work fine and the DVD cable should not be responsible for this problem.

    btw, I pluggend the official Sony RGB cable and the black and white bars are coloured now.
     
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  10. dickibow

    dickibow Intrepid Member

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    May sound daft but try another telly - perhaps your TV can't cope with the NTSC output that the TOOL produces. Try it on a modern TV if you can.

    It's worth a try.
     
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  11. unclejun

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    Have you tried booting it in WS mode?
     
  12. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    As CJ previously had this issue, I'd like to hear what he thinks. On another note, just out of curiosity can you reflip ALL the dipswitches just in case one of them was partially nudged.

    If this were any other piece of equipment I would be saying thinks like "change the cables", "try a different TV".

    Nothing looks out of place, nothing is unplugged, the switches are set fine, the PCI is ok, the cables are probably ok, the HDD are most likely perfect, and the DVD has nothing to do with it. Why not, just for the fun of it makes sure the GPU and CPU is seated properly!
     
  13. mdmx

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    I've tried a different tv and reflipped the dispswitches, but without success.

    Do you mean the GPU and CPU on the PS2 board?
     
  14. mdmx

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    When I received the unit it was in Emu and WS mode. Actually it's in DVD and TOOL mode. I switched it back to WS mode, but the LED is still on TOOL.
     
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  15. CJ!

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    Yeah, needless to say, mine came across the ocean, same error (about the board not found) I took the whole thing apart (down to the main PCB's (the pci slots, and the other main board), and reseated it, worked great.

    Out of curiousity, is your TOOL light on at all? Mine was not.

    But looking at the cause of errors, it probably isnt the PCI card itself (as its on, linux runs from it basically) and there is video output so the boards are 'alive'. Know that wasnt super helpful, but hopefully something in there might work.
     
  16. ASSEMbler

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    I sure hope you paid for insurance.
     
  17. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    Thinking about this logically. The unit was laid flat with the PCB (PS2 Board) DOWN to the base of the packaging.

    Was the packaging okay when it arrived (P.S. re insurance, if we are claiming anything back you'll need the packaging to prove it was ok - however I still have the images prior to sending and from the Post Office).

    If the box was dumped down heavily then the majority of the shock would have been taken by the packaging, then the frame of the unit. Is the frame buckled, bent, damaged, are any parts of the exterior casing damaged at all?

    The most fragile parts are the 2 bits that jutt out on the facade and on the top. Are they okay? Were they attached when the unit arrived?

    If so then the likelihood of it having been a sudden shock is reduced. I.e. It probably won't have been dumped heavily on it's side. The casing would have sustained the most damage.

    We know it was working perfectly well prior to leaving. We know it arrived in one piece. Let me know what the packaging was like when it arrived.

    We know the HDD are most likely to be fine, the PCI is out of the question as is the DVD.

    I've received a Sega Katana that is faulty and appears to be about to power up but gives no video output. Someone mentioned it might be the power supply. Is there any damage to the PSU? Check all the connections.

    Check the connection between Linux board and the PS2 board, any damage as that would be a prime candidate for damage if the unit were knocked. UJ has one that arrived with a cracked connector (PCI, not PS2).

    Also whilst the unit is plugged in, can you tell me whether all the fans are running on ALL the boards.

    Failing that I'd remove the main PS2 motherboard and check that over with an eye for cracks on the PCB or perhaps a lifted component.
     
  18. ASSEMbler

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    I would look for a solder crack.
     
  19. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    Maybe mattcp is still have that broken unit and willing to sell parts if you eventually find the faulty part..?
     
  20. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    A: I don't think Mattcp really treds these boards terribly often any more - he certainly doesn't appear to read / reply to messages, which is a rather sorry end to what looked like a genuinly good source of material.

    B: Let's hope it doesn't come to this!

    Any further updates on where you are at with this mate?
     
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