The Official "Man I've Screwed Up" Thread

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  1. TheDeathcoaster

    TheDeathcoaster Game Developer

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    Just so you guys know, chances are I'll be less active on here from now on....

    I've failed to get into University and don't have a clue what I'm gonna do now....not much time for videogames at the moment :Hangman:
     
  2. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Dude -- that sucks...what happened? Why not just do Junior College for a year? Cheaper, and really isn't that big of a deal in the long run if you get good grades.
     
  3. TheDeathcoaster

    TheDeathcoaster Game Developer

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    I was trying to study Japanese at Edinburgh.....I needed 3 Bs to get in and I failed to get that.....I got 2 Bs and a C. Missed it by ONE damn grade. They didn't even consider me once I failed that.

    I'm really pretty much fucked as of what to do next.....I'm trying to contact Edinburgh adn get their advice on what I could do this year to increase my chances of getting in next year....I don't know what I'm gonna do though...

    Oh well, at least I have a job interview this week....might finally get employed and be able to actually survive the next year.
     
  4. s0urce

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    Why did you wanted to study japanese anyway?If you desperately want to go to japan you can do that without speaking any japanese and if you don't want to go there it's mostly a waste of time.Asian languages are very hard to study (especially writing which will take you a few years) and they mostly won't help you getting a job because I and other people/companies who need translations want people with a native tongues to do that.

    So you better look for something else to study that can't be outsourced and gets you get decend income.
     
  5. TheDeathcoaster

    TheDeathcoaster Game Developer

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    Its not to do with a "fanboy-wants-to-live-in-japan" dream or anything :) I just have always liked languages....so I figured why not study a cool one like Japanese, lol. I know it makes me sound really iffy and whatever....but I wanted to study something fun at University....And yes, I knew it would be hard but I love a challenge :smt023

    I'm not sure what to do....I could get into a multitude of computer courses I'm semi-interested in....but I had my heart set on Japanese....

    Oh well, time will tell I guess.
     
  6. WolverineDK

    WolverineDK music lover

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    s0urce: i don´t get it why is it a waste of time ???
    as i see learning another language than your own native language is not a waste of time it can be an advancement if he speaks and understands the language before he goes to the country and wants to live there.

    Because i know you are from Germany and maybe is still living in Germany and if you would go to Denmark because you had enough of Germany (of some reason i do not know) that would be good if could speak danish correct (with an accent offcourse) but still you could speak it that would some advancement instead of a waste time. that is my point of it.

    but what the heck the danish language is in danger of exstinction because there is "only 5 milion who speaks it" so what the fuck one less language to learn right ?

    (sorry for the sarcasm) but i don´t get it why it is a waste of time of learning Japanese or any other language and that is my humble and honest oponion and point of you.
     
  7. SilverBolt

    SilverBolt Insert relevant title here

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    Well what source means is that while learning japanese might be fun it won't get you a job with a solid income.

    Same with a lot of university studies here in holland, their great fun but you'll never ever get a descent job with it to pay the bills (thinks of art,music and all kinds of antient languages etc..)
     
  8. WolverineDK

    WolverineDK music lover

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    hmmm if you get a great score in the exams of the languages you can always try being a teacher but i do not think that is it you are talking about a well payed job
     
  9. s0urce

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    WolverineDK I just ment that you won't have better chances of getting a job, I didn't say that it's a bad idea to study japanese but it takes lots of time to study a language and if you don't have another source of income so it doesn't matter that you study something for a few years fulltime for fun it's a bad idea and I know people who have studied languages (japanese, than switched to chinese etc.) but didn't get a job.

    If you really want to go to japan you won't get a better job beside you study another subject where people with real japanese skills are actually needed.If you life in a country you can still learn a language by yourself and maybe a few classes.

    If danish was as complicated as japanese and I would get a job offer I wouldn't want to wait 3-4 years just because I'd like to be able to communicate directly when I arrive.
     
  10. AntiPasta

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    No sir. I have experienced it to be pretty damn hard, my very limited Japanese has helped me out quite a lot of times.

    And I am very sorry to hear what happened. Best of luck!
     
  11. s0urce

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    Hi Anti how are you doing in Japan?Having a good holiday?

    It's about a job not about talking to locals.If you want to be an english teacher you won't need to speak japanese, if you're going to work in the IT sector also just a few companies require you to speak any japanese etc. etc.
     
  12. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    If you live in Japan, you wont be successful without learning some (a lot) of Japanese sooner or later. I studied Japanese for about 6-7 years (then 2 through highschool) starting at the age of...9. It only takes 1-2 months to be aclamated with Japanese writing in whole, if you have a memory and somewhat try to remember kana and a few dozen kanji. From experience, I know that non-rigorous Japanese lessons (7 years...) are simply not enough, I think college classes are the only way to go without submerging yourself entirely in the language (which is not a really good idea unless you already have a foundation for the language.) For me at least, the most difficult parts of the language are all the nuances (which is logical) instead of writing (including a dozen kanji), which I picked up after a month at the age of 9...
     
  13. Paulo

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    Go through clearing for other universities as well!! Really its much easier to get in the first time aroudn the the second,
     
  14. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    That's really bad news about not getting in to Uni TheDeathcoaster but don't let that get you down. The most important thing in this world is to get yourself a job. Some people may laugh but when I went to school I have quite a few friends that went to Uni. I had the last laugh though. While I was making 700 pound month (Quite a bit for a 18 year old back in 1994) they were all skint and even after they left Uni they were unemployed for a while then ended up getting crap jobs. What I'm trying to say is get a job and study Japanese privately or join a night course. That's what I did.

    I have some bad news myself. Yesterday I failed my Driving test thanks to a fuckwit burning round my right hand side the cutting in front of me only to slam on his brakes. What really pissed me off was that I only got 5 minor faults out of 15 and that the driving instructor said that if the other guy hadn't done what he did then I would have passed. I hate the way the system works in this country. Anyway, I have to fork out another 60 pound for another test on the 25th August. can't wait to get back home to Japan :smt022

    Yakumo
     
  15. Alien Workshop

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    :smt043 I have had bad luck with driving tests in the past, so I know how you feel.
     
  16. Sorry to hear that on both of you. Good luck on your next driving test, Yakumo, and watch out for fucktards (btw, when were you planning on going back to Japan?)

    TheDeathcoaster, don't give up hope yet. I don't know if you've heard the saying, "When a door closes, a window opens" or something like that, but maybe going to the Uni wasn't the best thing for you right now. Take a look around at other schools and see if there's anything that interests you, or maybe now would be a good time to go study abroad if there was any place you were looking at going to and can still apply. And there's always taking a year off and working - you said you had a job lead, which is a good thing, and if the job's bad enough, maybe it'll motivate you to work extra hard in school when you go back. :smt023 As far as Japanese, despite it being a lot harder than learning in a classroom setting, try learning on your own. Get yourself a good dictionary, some sort of study course, and go from there. You can supplement yourself with fun things like Japanese magazines, games, anime, manga, music, etc., all of which can be helpful in learning the language (but shouldn't be relied solely on, obviously). Something good will come up, like I said - take a look around and see what's open to you, and who knows, there could be something that you can do now that wouldn't have been available to you had you gone to the Uni. Cheer up. it'll get better! :smt023 :drinkers:
     
  17. ASSEMbler

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    Go to school in USA or Canda. We'll take anyone as long as you have cash :drinkers:
     
  18. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    Jeez... you people have no clue. The Department of Motor vehicles here in America is the most evil institution on the face of the earth. I think Satan himself wrote the written test.

    Sorry to hear you not getting into college, but don't let it get you down. Yeah, it looks good on a resume but experience is also valuble. Take this time to get some decent experience, also take some community college (make it cheaper when you go to the real thing, at least that's how it worked here.)

    Don't worry about it taking too long, what matters is that you finish it when you're young without responsibilites. It's going to be a major pain in the ass if you end up going back to shcool when you're too old and have a wife, kids, rent, etc (not like I would know this from experience or anything...)

    Anyway, I'll mention something I've screwed up on.

    The girl I love and who loves me is going to marry somebody else. What really sucks is that she's marrying one of my good friends, so it's not like I can steal her or something.

    I am going to kill myself. I think I'll wait until the wedding and disemblowel myself with the cake knife, then shove a live nuclear warhead into my body cavity and launch myself out of a catapult off of a skycraper so the explosion can get the maximum kill ratio. I've been trying to buy some plutonium but the man from the Federal Energy Commission said it was a controlled substance. But I've got seven months until the wedding, so I'm sure I can get some.
     
  19. id-republix

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    Bloody hell.

    Yakumo, why don't you exchange your Japanese license for a UK one? What I did was exchange my Canadian license for a UK one for 24 quid, then when I came back here I simply got my old Canadian license renewed and reissued and was allowed to keep my UK license without ever having to have take the notoriously murderous UK diving test.
     
  20. GaijinPunch

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    Shit -- I'm glad I ignored the many people like you that told me shit like that when I was studying.

    I got my first two it interviews that became jobs b/c I was bilingual. Had a lot of other interviews besides those, that I only got b/c I could speak both.

    If you're going to work in the IT sector, and you're not shit-hot w/ computers (UNIX guru high knowedlge of w/ MySQL, Oracle and/or C++/Java ) and don't speak conversational Japanese, don't bother. Yeah, you can get jobs, but there are a LOT that won't bother if you can't at least stumble through a Japanese conversataion. Anything user support level, which is the majority of IT jobs available to foreigners, requires some Japanese. I've got a friend you can talk to who is very tech-savy, and turned down regularly b/c his Japanese is so dodgy.

    Seriously Source -- how much time have you spent in Japan, and how many jobs have you had here? Sorry if it looks like I'm zero-ing you out, but your'e coming off quite pessemistic, and I disagree w/ a lot of what you're saying.

    I'm not saying it's a shoe-in when you speak Japanese, but to say that it opens doors is a huge understatement. The bad thing now, is that it seems a lot of people are trying to learn to speak Japanese. I have no clue how far they're getting, but when I started (11 years ago) it was a very few. Only handful got past the "watashi ha gakusei desu" stage. There were only about 1-2 anime geeks in any given class (out of 20-30 people). Now, it seems a lot higher.

    Anyways, Deathcoster -- you should really do what you want. You will have native-level speakers to compete with, but you know what -- lots of places want native-English/high-Japanese speakers, which is a very attainable status. You could also ultimately translate J to E (something Japanese people traditionally can't). I've got a friend in the industry, always trying to suck me in.

    I won't even go into the benefits of how abstract thinking helps your brain.
     
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